extended non smoking areas

Widdly you are generalising. If you are anywhere as wise as you seem to portray yourself as, you would know that the smell would only linger if the smoker takes no action to get rid of it. There are cigarettes that stink more than others, there are ways to NOT get the smoke onto your clothes, there are ways to get the smell off your hands and mouth.

And calling smokers fools? You name me ONE flaw of yours and I'll call you a fool for that flaw. We'll see how reasonable and 'incredibly smart' I'd sound then, given that is exactly what you are doing.
 
I smoked for 17 years and I can't think of any. Now I've quit I enjoy feeling smug and superior to smokers at every opportunity. I love to see them ostracised as the social pariahs they are.

And if you need something as ridiculous as that in order to feel superior then seriously I pity you.
 
The debate between the avid smokers and the vehement non-smokers will always go on an on...

Anyway, i think the extended non smoking area is to discourage the casual or social smokers from smoking. U see, there r many of these light smokers around who smoke occasionally, unlike the the heavy smokers who smoke frequently. These light smokers smoke for social reasons (when they r with a group of smoker friends), or when they are stressed (some of my friends who r medical students smoke when they r stressed up with exams), or when they r doing ict (when they r out in the jungle chionging, smoking can get rid of mozzies). IMO, i think the high cost of smoking and the extended non-smoking area is to discourage these light smokers, rather than those heavy smokers.

From the replies that i've read from some of the smokers in this forum, i reckoned that it is almost close to impossible to discourage the heavy smokers from smoking.
 
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This is what i call exuding maturity.Let's not demonise smokers,i seriously do not think its nice to do so.It'll take a while before one quits so just let nature take its course ja?Meanwhile,let us all channel that anger to something else,say.........music? =)
 
Anyways,i sometimes wonder why certain people are so fanatical and up in arms over such a menial issue.Its not like we declared war on Pulau Hantu or sth,smokers are humans too and they dont look any different from us,why look them askew and lambast them as though they are lepers?Almost everyone in my clique are smokers and even one of them,who is such a wonderful girl,smokes whenever im around and even though they are worried that im bothered about it,im glad to say that i respect their personal choice and last i checked,they didn't stuff a stick of Dunhill into my mouth while being hog-tied or turned into Decepticons.lol.Let's not play the saint when we too have our own faults that other people could just fabricate and make it sound destructive ><
 
I am a non smoker,

I think we should give smoker a break, cause it is not easy for them(smokers)to give up..

I am sure many of the smokers want to quit but because it is tough, they have already lost control of will power over a small white or brown stick, so gave them a break....it is like becoming a slave to cigarettes...

Just like we being slave to some things, like computer games, GAS etc...
 
its all about addiction ... come on la if u guys think quit smoking so easy. try go clubbing without drinking for those who drink frequently lol.. and most smokers i guess smoke so they can do their business (toilet) and also to like fill in something that is missing in the body. yes smoking is bad and bla bla bla.. i think the government is looking to cut the smoking population by half as cigarettes will be 20 bucks in 2 years time. and with that they only need half of the population to earn the same profit from the tax. i think in 10 years time smoking in singapore will be like smoking weed LOL...

did u guys realized they banned shops under mrt stations to sell cigarettes ? yea i kinda of realize that until my cousin told me. or if i am wrong please correct me lol.

like bob marley says
no woman no cry

no weed no life

no cigarettes no money
 
The thing, the government will never outlaw smoking simply because it makes them too much money. When they raised the taxes on smokes, even though some people quit, they still ended up getting more money.

What's the point. Smoke if you want. Quit if you think you're getting addicted. We all live and die. meh
 
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but since they wont outlaw why do so much stunts. to look clean?

not that I am complaining though, i love it that in clubs its smoke free :)
 
Well I guess smoking is like biting nails.

It can irritate and disgust people but it does not affect one's capacity or whatsoever.
 
i think the government cannot outlaw smokers or ban them because of several reasons.

the reason about ciggie being a very lucrative industry may be one compelling reason. but i personally am someone who feels that the intangible damages outweigh the superficial benefits.

i believe the more logical (incidentally the more politically correct) reason is that the smoking addiction is not just a health issue but a societal issue. u see, a health problem can be solved by administering treatment, or therapy or medication or surgery or vaccination etc. clearly, this smoking addiction cannot be easily overcomed by the above methods, rather, it requires persuasion, conselling, the support of the friends and family, determination and total abstinence thereafter, to completely overcome the addiction. hence, a societal issue as challenging as this cannot be easily resolved by the overnight ban of smoking or outlaw of smokers.

another reason is that if the government is to completely ban smoking, they must have the conviction, resources and means to do so.

this can be analogous to drink driving. the traffic police want to erradicate drink driving, so they have media reminders in the form of tv advertisements, newspaper ads, u even see them on the noticeboards at our local bus stops. oh, and they set up road blocks to apprehend drink drivers. look at the tremendous amount of effort, money and manpower required, this is not an easy feat.

now, come back to the hypothetical scenario when the government ban smoking. alot of money and manpower will be required to enforce a complete ban on smoking. (on a side note: you might wonder where the money comes from. yup it comes from taxpayers' pocker, yup aka you. and whether the manpower comes from? well, from nsmen, like how the nsmen r being deployed with mas selamat escaped). what if, halfway thru the implementation of the ban, the authorities lose their enthusiasm and commitment, or the authorities are not firm enough in the implementation? all these may undermine the government's original intention and standing.

and assuming if the government really has what it takes to do so, we have to consider the repercussions. if smoking is banned, then r smokers criminal? how do we deal with those who defy the ban? there may be a rise in sale of contraband ciggies. ciggie smuggling, wth??? as u can see, a complete ban might lead to many grey areas, which are very difficult to address. hence a complete ban is not as pragmatic as one may think.

therefore the extended non-smoking area, coz it is the most pragmatic way to discourage smoking, as compared to the idealistic but draconian implementation of a total ban for smoking.
 
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