Drum. Skin. Hardware. HELP!

[ConanCassidy]

okay here is the thing. i got my set for 100 your typical 5 piece drumset sure it was abit old the hardware is abit rusted. but hey i got a paise ride so im not complaining :mrgreen:. but now. i want to change the skins. how much would they cost?
and where? i havent been in singapore for too long so im not good at places and all that.

the other thing is all my toms are missing the back covers or and hardware. where can i get those and how much? my friend will be passing me his set so then i'll have double bass drums and all that and tuning would be an issue as well. i seek advice from the gurus

 

[marcdadrummer]

Hi TS, welcome to soft drumming forum.

100 is definately cheap for a 5 piece kit but bear in mind, usually that kinda value, confirm everything is in koyak condition.. rusted lugs, maybe cracked shells, chipped bearing edges and stuff. So even though it's cheap, it won't sound as good if the condition is very bad.

Rusted chrome could be re-chromed but it's very expensive, i suggest using chrome polishers.

for skins, it really depends on what u wanna get... the mainstream market and readily available "common" heads are evans G2/G1 and they are found at ranking/music theme.

remo can be found in sweelee and DRMP too.

a picture of what items u are missing would be good coz i can't understand what's a black cover???

hope this helps... u can try asking drum_hobbiyist for help in tuning.

list of music shops in sg:
http://soft.com.sg/forum/showthread.php?t=15531

 

[lepak]

Whats the diff with G1 and G2? haha.

 

[jeepers]

bro lepak, depends on whether they're coated or not.

G1 clear: open and slightly brighter sound
G1 coated: open and warmer sound

G2 clear: bright and slightly open sound
G2 coated: pretty equal overall but more focused.

i think so la. heh.

i used to use g1 clear on my toms. pretty decent, esp for the price they're going at. buy a tom pack, cheap.

 

[ConanCassidy]

nothing is cracked really, yes no doubt that there is like. rust but you know its like. about 10 years haha but im sure the paiste cymbals already covered the money i paid for it :-D err. the back cover. haha sorry guys im not to great with the technical terms. you know the opposite side of where you hit a tom. haha i know i should get my terms straight.

 

[skyxlancer]

i suppose u are talkin the resonance skin if im correct?? the skin at the bottom of the drum..?

 

[Stickman]

Yea bottom is the reso side and where you hit is the batter side

 

[RudimentalDrummer]

What Kit is that "The Brand" - Ranking has stocks of of what you need and it's prices are competitive......I proposed G1 skin - as you will get more toner quality especially for Reso (Bottom Skin) - Thinner is better - as it Resonate better.

 

[marcdadrummer]

g1 are 1 ply 7mm or 14mm mylar plastic which might not be very durable if ur a heavy hitter.

and which paiste series is it??

 

[ConanCassidy]

THANKS GUYS! yes yes its the reso skin thing. but i dont have the hardware for them. its a paise 101 18" ride i really need to restore this thing. the set is a maxim by pearl set or something. and i need to shoot my neighbour downstairs.

 

[Logan]

You may want to reconsider discarding your 101. I acquired a very old 101 18" ride-crash...the sound is not bad at all (but of course, the sound is not like a higher-end cymbal). My comparisons with a new 18" at rankings make it seem that aging cymbals sound better....I may be totally wrong, but why not try it eh?


To RD and the rest of the guys/girls, can I ask some questoins:

1. If I use G1 batter, must I use G1 reso as well? Can I use another reso or can I still use the generic reso? How would the sound be?

2. Is the EC series like low-end and the G1 like higher-end or the other way around?


Thanks people.

 

[marcdadrummer]

ec series are the newer series of drumheads offered by evans..

theres ec1 and ec2 where ec1 is 14mm single ply mylar and ec2 is 7mm double ply mylar.

the EC series have a metal strip on the sides which helps cut down on the overtones. it's generally much more expensive than the g1/g2 series..

google evans and check out their product sound ranges from sharp/dark/open etc.

evans have many choices but the mainly for toms are g1 and g2...

usually people go for g2 batter g1 clear as maybe the g1 is the thinner 7mm single ply one which means that thinner heads = more resonant resonant.

my best advice to you TS and bro logan is that u read up the DTB. it even has head choices and are updated with the brand new heads the major companies make!!!

here's the links:

http://www.evansdrumheads.com/

http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/index.html

PS: u might wanna get ready to read the DTB.. it might take some time but it's a very good place to up ur knowledge on drums... and tuning!!

 

[Logan]

Thanks Marc!

 

[marcdadrummer]

no problem bro... the DTB, u might wanna increase ur font size on ur internet... if not u get squinty eyes after reading page one.. lol

 

[ConanCassidy]

but like do i even need a resonant skin i mean the RT set i noticed there is none so would that same concept work for me? or. i just called like a few companies and none of them sell rims. damn. suggestions?

 

[marcdadrummer]

so urs is a pearl rt.. so all u need is a good ol batter head... i might suggest remo control sound or evans g2...

it would be a 10, 12, 14, 18 config amirite?? than it wouldn't be very expensive.. probably less than 130 for everything... show us a pic please.

 

[metzalx]

I'm not very sure about whether you're saying your set is an RT, or that you noticed the RT doesn't have resonant heads so you think yours doesn't need...

If you're in the second situation, resonant heads do exactly what their name suggests. Below is an excerpt from Wikipedia:

"The resonant head is named according to its function. Although it is not struck, this head is critical to how your drums sound, affecting pitch, duration & movement or pitch bend of the sound."

The RT is more of a practice set, but if you're going to experiment with tuning options, you're gonna need more than just the batter head, IMO. If you have the option to install resonant heads on your toms, do so. :mrgreen:

 

[ConanCassidy]

haha i would show you a pic but i just removed the skins on everything. haha. so yeah. and WOO! im getting double pedals for like 100 tomorrow http://www.shoppingwallet.com/pd-drumsanddrumsets-tamacamcodoublepedal7fc5204 vintage pedals man. haha. my set is not an rt but you know if rt works without the resonant head i dont see why my cant work. by thanks for your opinion guys. excited as hell for the pedals. :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

 

[plainsman]

good call on the DTB (drum tuning bible) webby

i read the cymbals article a few years ago and i must say it gave me a really good perspective. the rest of the site's good as well

 

[metzalx]

my set is not an rt but you know if rt works without the resonant head i dont see why my cant work.

The point is not whether your set will work without the resonant head. Of course it'll work without the resonant head, but you'll have much less tuning options.

BTW, congrats on your new pedals! :mrgreen: