does the country guitar n pedals r made in matter?
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PatheinRaindropMoe
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imho and without any proof of authenticity
in general term
any piece of gear, from household appliances to transportation to music, all went thru a series of process before we get to use it. Quality control is an important part of the manufacturing process. While a piece of equipment can be made in any country, from 3rd world country to highly developed country, without QC, anything can happen, either from the beginning, from a finished product before hitting the hands of consumer to numberous abuse from the user etc. Without QC, it doesnt matter which ever country that make these products
When come to guitar gear, lotsa urban legend can arise, from the various internet forums to word of mawth from users to readers of these kinda forums. Its almost like wild fire spreading. Some of the info can be true while some can be ffrom reading too many things online and start having the thoughts of "this piece of gear suck coz its made in xxx country" etc, even before trying.
For those company which shifted their manufacturing plant to overseas, sometime it aint just a straightforward thought of "this piece of gear will suck coz its made in xxx country". More than often, its link to the cost and economical issue. A company can perhaps save up to millions when they shift their manufacturing overseas by having a lower setup cost and workers cost, while achieveing the same qc when the peice of product is still made in ither own country, at a higher cost.
For mass production gear, this is better in the long run. Pride in the product is important for the manufacturer, but cost is equally important as well. And of course, if a company can continue to manufacture their products in their own country and use that as a selling point to command higher price, why not. Afterall, therse company already set a stronghold in the industry for years and people are buying into the idea of proudly made in ______(fill in the blank with your favourite country making your favourite gear) and willing to pay for it.
Regardless of where its made, without QC, anything can goes wrong
When come to guitar gear, the behaviour of comsumer also quite funny. Back in the 90s, lotsa gear came from some asian countries and lotsa people actually bashed those, cos it didnt came from the country where modern music that utillised guitar a lot. Fast forward to post y2k, when the cost of manufacturing is getting higher(perhaps in some asian countries) and some maker shifted their plant to china, suddenly you see lotsa people bashing china made gear all over the forum while made in korea gear suddenly seem like a selling point in the resale market
Of course there might be some truth to certain gear made in certain country on having bad qc or break down easily, we must also look at things from the consumer end, on how the piece of gear is being utilised.
heh, cut the above short, buying gear is like finding life solution, sometime its one hit and we get it, sometime we need to go thru many doors before finding the right one. To have a prefixed ideas on gear based on where it is made, before trying, trying over long term, is a too easy way out looking at the sky in the well and thinking the whole world is the sky we see from inside the well
in general term
any piece of gear, from household appliances to transportation to music, all went thru a series of process before we get to use it. Quality control is an important part of the manufacturing process. While a piece of equipment can be made in any country, from 3rd world country to highly developed country, without QC, anything can happen, either from the beginning, from a finished product before hitting the hands of consumer to numberous abuse from the user etc. Without QC, it doesnt matter which ever country that make these products
When come to guitar gear, lotsa urban legend can arise, from the various internet forums to word of mawth from users to readers of these kinda forums. Its almost like wild fire spreading. Some of the info can be true while some can be ffrom reading too many things online and start having the thoughts of "this piece of gear suck coz its made in xxx country" etc, even before trying.
For those company which shifted their manufacturing plant to overseas, sometime it aint just a straightforward thought of "this piece of gear will suck coz its made in xxx country". More than often, its link to the cost and economical issue. A company can perhaps save up to millions when they shift their manufacturing overseas by having a lower setup cost and workers cost, while achieveing the same qc when the peice of product is still made in ither own country, at a higher cost.
For mass production gear, this is better in the long run. Pride in the product is important for the manufacturer, but cost is equally important as well. And of course, if a company can continue to manufacture their products in their own country and use that as a selling point to command higher price, why not. Afterall, therse company already set a stronghold in the industry for years and people are buying into the idea of proudly made in ______(fill in the blank with your favourite country making your favourite gear) and willing to pay for it.
Regardless of where its made, without QC, anything can goes wrong
When come to guitar gear, the behaviour of comsumer also quite funny. Back in the 90s, lotsa gear came from some asian countries and lotsa people actually bashed those, cos it didnt came from the country where modern music that utillised guitar a lot. Fast forward to post y2k, when the cost of manufacturing is getting higher(perhaps in some asian countries) and some maker shifted their plant to china, suddenly you see lotsa people bashing china made gear all over the forum while made in korea gear suddenly seem like a selling point in the resale market
Of course there might be some truth to certain gear made in certain country on having bad qc or break down easily, we must also look at things from the consumer end, on how the piece of gear is being utilised.
heh, cut the above short, buying gear is like finding life solution, sometime its one hit and we get it, sometime we need to go thru many doors before finding the right one. To have a prefixed ideas on gear based on where it is made, before trying, trying over long term, is a too easy way out looking at the sky in the well and thinking the whole world is the sky we see from inside the well
Country of origin shouldn't matter as much as who made it, how it was made. If the QC is top notch, the woods chosen is top notch and the whole pedal/guitar put together with concern for TONE, then hell, even if its from Siberia, why not?
Unfortunately.. most mass produced goods fall in the money making category and the cheaper products are usually made in.. China. So... yeah.
Unfortunately.. most mass produced goods fall in the money making category and the cheaper products are usually made in.. China. So... yeah.
PatheinRaindropMoe
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heh, the wide awake dragon!
Check out this book, seem like something interesting
"From Publishers Weekly
Journalist Bongiorni, on a post-Christmas day mired deep in plastic toys and electronics equipment, makes up her mind to live for a year without buying any products made in China, a decision spurred less by notions of idealism or fair trade-though she does note troubling statistics on job loss and trade deficits-than simply "to see if it can be done." In this more personal vein, Bongiorni tells often funny, occasionally humiliating stories centering around her difficulty procuring sneakers, sunglasses, DVD players and toys for two young children and a skeptical husband. With little insight into global economics or China's manufacturing practices, readers may question the point of singling out China when cheap, sweatshop-produced products from other countries are fair game (though Bongiorni cheerfully admits the flaws in her project, she doesn't consider fixing them). Still, Bongiorni is a graceful, self-deprecating writer, and her comic adventures in self-imposed inconvenience cast an interesting sideways glance at the personal effects of globalism, even if it doesn't easily connect to the bigger picture"
Check out this book, seem like something interesting
"From Publishers Weekly
Journalist Bongiorni, on a post-Christmas day mired deep in plastic toys and electronics equipment, makes up her mind to live for a year without buying any products made in China, a decision spurred less by notions of idealism or fair trade-though she does note troubling statistics on job loss and trade deficits-than simply "to see if it can be done." In this more personal vein, Bongiorni tells often funny, occasionally humiliating stories centering around her difficulty procuring sneakers, sunglasses, DVD players and toys for two young children and a skeptical husband. With little insight into global economics or China's manufacturing practices, readers may question the point of singling out China when cheap, sweatshop-produced products from other countries are fair game (though Bongiorni cheerfully admits the flaws in her project, she doesn't consider fixing them). Still, Bongiorni is a graceful, self-deprecating writer, and her comic adventures in self-imposed inconvenience cast an interesting sideways glance at the personal effects of globalism, even if it doesn't easily connect to the bigger picture"
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