And the pricing, they are not too shabby either, kinda affordable. I duno y, but wif their outlook and stuff aside from the pricing, it jus keeps hitting my head tat they were like a direct competition to DW. Hell, jus look at the endorsees list, a number of them used to be wif DW. And some of their finishes, are so DW, and the fact tat they are Ddrums, and not DWdrums. :lol: