David Lucas Burge Perfect Pitch Ear Training Supercourse
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vernplum
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I did not go through the entire course, but went through about half of it before selling it, declaring it 'rubbish'.
There's really no special secret that he reveals. Basically, the tapes (at least the first two I listened to) consist of him talking in a quiet voice and then playing a note, and then saying something like 'Now, listen to the quality of that note - that's an E flat. It has a specific timbre that is unique to E flat'.
This was over 10 years ago, but I doubt it's been updated much more than the core method which is 'listen to various notes and try to distinguish them by their quality'.
There's really no special secret that he reveals. Basically, the tapes (at least the first two I listened to) consist of him talking in a quiet voice and then playing a note, and then saying something like 'Now, listen to the quality of that note - that's an E flat. It has a specific timbre that is unique to E flat'.
This was over 10 years ago, but I doubt it's been updated much more than the core method which is 'listen to various notes and try to distinguish them by their quality'.
hi thanks for all the reply. Currently the version is 2.5 when I see it from amazon
Don't know whether is there any improvement for the current version......
There are lots of debate whether Perfect Pitch can be trained after the window period of 4 to 7 years old...
Well...
Thinking of buying it if it really works.
Try to convince myself to buy if anyone here in the forum has a success story.
Anyway, thanks for you all to share your experience.
Don't know whether is there any improvement for the current version......
There are lots of debate whether Perfect Pitch can be trained after the window period of 4 to 7 years old...
Well...
Thinking of buying it if it really works.
Try to convince myself to buy if anyone here in the forum has a success story.
Anyway, thanks for you all to share your experience.
I wouldn't waste your money. Perfect Pitch is more of a party trick. If music isn't played at A440 it will drive perfect pitch people mad, while everyone else wont care or even notice.
I think relative pitch is a much more useful skill to have. Also there are well established and less esoteric methods for obtaining it. There are plenty of books, CD's and software packages with methods for developing it. You might get really obsessive about it and find yourself trying to sing different harmonies against the hum of your air conditioner.
I think relative pitch is a much more useful skill to have. Also there are well established and less esoteric methods for obtaining it. There are plenty of books, CD's and software packages with methods for developing it. You might get really obsessive about it and find yourself trying to sing different harmonies against the hum of your air conditioner.
cold_static544
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yea, i personally relative pitch is a more accessible, and useful skill to have. i downloaded the david lucas burge thing, i dont think its impossible, i just think you gotta do alot of homework.
Cheez
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Widdly, perfect pitch is more than a party trick. It's extremely useful in many circumstances. And no, it doesn't drive us mad if the tuning is not at 440. 440 is not always the standard tuning anyway - since european orchestras tune at 443 and some US orchestras tune at 338. Perfect pitch has nothing to do with tuning. And yes, people without perfect pitch tells off-tuned instruments easily - so they do notice if somebody is 338 or 442 - even though they don't know what note the person is playing.
But having said that, I stand my point that perfect pitch is not absolutely essential and I agree relative pitching is sufficient. Good to have perfect pitch; but don't have to fret if you don't have it.
As for this David Lucas training course, I would also agree not to worry about it too much. I see what he is talking about and I "see" the notes as he described (in colours). This is the language perfect pitch people use, but not helpful for those who don't have it. I belong to those who believe it can be trained.
But having said that, I stand my point that perfect pitch is not absolutely essential and I agree relative pitching is sufficient. Good to have perfect pitch; but don't have to fret if you don't have it.
As for this David Lucas training course, I would also agree not to worry about it too much. I see what he is talking about and I "see" the notes as he described (in colours). This is the language perfect pitch people use, but not helpful for those who don't have it. I belong to those who believe it can be trained.
yes i believe it can be train. I have the the whole program. It explains really well actually but it's a skill to learn. It's like learning music all over again yeah. They say.."the more u know the more u need to find out" I've been playing and performing for close to ten years now...and there's always something new and important to learn. currently it's perfect pitch..I havent nail it yet. Hope to nail it soon.
logicdroid
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Helps if you sing what you play..
Helps just singing your songs everyday..
What's the pitch of the elevator's bell?
Hmmm... sounds like the G string on my guitar from hell..
HEHE.:twisted:
Helps just singing your songs everyday..
What's the pitch of the elevator's bell?
Hmmm... sounds like the G string on my guitar from hell..
HEHE.:twisted:
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Against The Enemy
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i have the program too...
got it from a friend of mine..
but really,with 8 cds..
i didn't have the time to just sit down and do it..
got it from a friend of mine..
but really,with 8 cds..
i didn't have the time to just sit down and do it..
BryceAlexander
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Learning Perfect Pitch
I think Burge's course is not wrong but is a bit thin on content and full of waffle. It is also outrageously overpriced and you need a partner to train with. I think relative pitch skills are much more important to any musician but perfect pitch is great. I have perfect pitch and I did learn it as an adult - so it is possible. I've written quite a lot on the subject on my own website. The gyst of it is that these elusive differences in timbre between the notes can only come from one thing - the overtones (harmonics) of the sound. My theory is that certain harmonics of some notes are more evident to us because of resonances within the ear. You need to learn to really tune in to these harmonics, which can be difficult when we are so used to listening to the funamental tones.
I think Burge's course is not wrong but is a bit thin on content and full of waffle. It is also outrageously overpriced and you need a partner to train with. I think relative pitch skills are much more important to any musician but perfect pitch is great. I have perfect pitch and I did learn it as an adult - so it is possible. I've written quite a lot on the subject on my own website. The gyst of it is that these elusive differences in timbre between the notes can only come from one thing - the overtones (harmonics) of the sound. My theory is that certain harmonics of some notes are more evident to us because of resonances within the ear. You need to learn to really tune in to these harmonics, which can be difficult when we are so used to listening to the funamental tones.
