Classic Amp Clones Anyone?

[thor666]

hardly. most effects pedals i have so far... reliant on amp. if the amp sucks, you're stuck with a bad tone.

some have also noticed that the circuitry on some amps are better than those found on the pedals in terms of design.

it's just very hard to get a specific tone (overdrive and distortion) when gigging. well i know the best is to lug ur amp around or buy a digital effect. heh.

 

[Timex]

If you put the same circuit of a certain amp 'LEAD CHANNEL' into a pedal, can be done..

Do you mean put the preamp circuit into a pedal?

 

[Timex]

If you have found a good amp to meet your needs, then you won`t have to use pedals to alter the guitar`s signal.

I feel that pedals are needed only to cover the deficiencies of the amp

 

[thor666]

well amps are probably always the problem.. sometimes i think about the guy saying Line6 XT plug in direct to PA and wonder if it's better.

the thing is, i don't have $ to get a van to move my own amp. (not that i have a heavy amp now; just that if i had i couldn't.) so gigging would be a hit and miss.

same for jamming studios. imo after going to garage studios for some time, I think they've changed their tubes and their marshall doesn't sound powerful at all any more... i gotta put 3 o'clock for both volume knobs to get a decent volume.

i think that's why the interest in tube pedals/portable tube amps are always there...hopefully to facilitate this prob.

 

[Timex]

OK there has been 3 pages of talk. So is anyone geting a clone?

 

[thor666]

OK there has been 3 pages of talk. So is anyone geting a clone?

u're tempting me

well i'm still newbie to these stuff... still looking at the 3 pages... haha

any experiences on ur side to share? like why u chose a certain clone, difficulties faced etc?

 

[Timex]

I originally wanted to get the JTM 45 but since ti was my first time i tried the Hi Octane. Now my friend is assembling i for me. I will know he results soon in about a month`s time. meanwhile I had some problem sourcing for a cheap speaker cab but finally got one with 2 built in speakers. Here`sa article about ceriatone

http://202.186.86.35/audio/story.asp?file=/2005/1/27/audiofile/27ceria&sec=audiofile


Also i think the Fender clone is a reasonable buy(looks sharp). Try to buy their amps without tubes to save costs

 

[p00n]

Actually what's the difference between the Marshall 18 watt TMB and the 18 watt? Im rather interested in getting one ready made one as I dont really trust myself soldering everything.

Would anyone local be able to put together the kit? Actually the kit already has an assembled board right? Does that mean it just needs to be screwed together?

Also how do you assemble the combo version onto a cab? And I noticed that on the head version, it has an attenuator at the back that the combo version does not.

 

[Timex]

In kit form you would still have to do alot of assembling cause only the boards assembled. the rest(pots,transformers and jacks you have to DIY)

As for he diff, I think the 18 W is a combo version (notice where the tubes are located)and the other one is a head version. You will have to take into account he dimensions of the chassis when designing he cab. Go to the silva tone site i posted o see some nice examples

 

[mikemann]

If you guys don't mind, I can do up your projects for you professionally for a reasonable price.

My credentials is that I have a Dip in Electronics(don't mean a thing, just a piece of paper). Self taught, being repairing CRT monitors for about 13yrs, started doing amps seriously for 2over years. Have repaired twin reverb, super reverb, bassman, JTM45, JCM, peavey, crate, laney....etc full tube models. Sorry, I don't keep track of how many amps I've done so far, as I do it as part of my business, not a hobby.

Turnaround time should be about 2-4days from project start, provided all parts are available, no kork-ups. Could be faster or longer depending on my mood.

 

[seekz]

As for he diff, I think the 18 W is a combo version

sorry i dont understand what you mean by combo version.
you mean there are speakers for it or what? pardon my ignorance.
I'm interested in the combo

 

[Timex]

OK here`s what I mean.

the 18W with the tubes at the rear is meant to be a combo amp ie speaker and amplifier circuitry together in one single box.

the other one with the tubes on top is meant to be a head ie speaker and amplifier circuitry seperate.

Hope this clears up the air

 

[Timex]

If you guys don't mind, I can do up your projects for you professionally for a reasonable price..

I was just about to suggest you Mikemann

 

[seekz]

so it comes with the speaker any everything yeah? Cos i dont know how to build amps. I'm only interested in a ready to play one.

 

[Timex]

No you got to get them yourself. Think of it as a car with no tires

 

[p00n]

actually the thing is that the combo version doesn't have an attenuator, which I find pretty strange. and if you're not going to build a cab to house the combo version, I think the head version may be a better bet.

Mikemann: what should one expect of the price range for you to fix up one of these kits? $70USD by ceriatone is quite steep..

 

[mikemann]

Professionally speaking, US$70 is a very reasonable price. Remember it's custom hand produced, not mass produced. I will be charging more than that myself, as I also need more time to analyse a "new" product that comes into my hand. Even more so if you messed it up yourself, rectification is additional work.

You are not only paying for the person's pay for the time he takes, also for his expertise in the craftsmanship. Hope you can understand that poon, btw what age are you?? These things will become clearer naturally when you start a family yourself. Not so simple lah....

(beside the point, and not talking about you, ok??) The sad thing about us Singaporeans is that they tend to be blind to how something comes about. What goes on behind the scene. It's this "take for granted" attitude that comes from a wealthy nation where the govt has already think out all ths stuff for us. Not good for enterpuernership.

 

[duskalways]

i second mikemann's views. it's not easy running a company. many a times, people do not see the blood, sweat, behind the scene. honest living can be tough living. :|

 

[p00n]

Professionally speaking, US$70 is a very reasonable price. .

My bad. I neither have a family nor have any experience in this field. But for my consumer's point of view wouldn't it be more economical and convenient to have it assembled at ceriatone itself?

 

[Timex]

Professionally speaking, US$70 is a very reasonable price. Remember it's custom hand produced, not mass produced. I will be charging more than that myself, as I also need more time to analyse a "new" product that comes into my hand. Even more so if you messed it up yourself, rectification is additional work.

You are not only paying for the person's pay for the time he takes, also for his expertise in the craftsmanship. Hope you can understand that poon, btw what age are you?? These things will become clearer naturally when you start a family yourself. Not so simple lah....

(beside the point, and not talking about you, ok??) The sad thing about us Singaporeans is that they tend to be blind to how something comes about. What goes on behind the scene. It's this "take for granted" attitude that comes from a wealthy nation where the govt has already think out all ths stuff for us. Not good for enterpuernership.

I too feel that UDS70 is a reasonable price to pay. As i mentioned I tried to DIY but lacked the necessary skills. Anyway compared to other kit sellers Ceriatone is cheaper by at least 10%. The advantage is that you can be sure that the amp is playable. But the disadvantage is that your shipping cost will increase due to the added weight.Come on, it may be cheap but it ain`t that cheap.