Buy low end then mod? or just whack high end?
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TidesOfBlood
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lol just because one likes EMGs means must play those genres?
you guys don't appreciate the cleans from EMGs ah?
you guys don't appreciate the cleans from EMGs ah?
Aki S. Ian
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it all depends on the the wood of the guitar actually.
hmm,
Im using a Washburn Idol Series WI64.
supposely to be paired with sh1n sh4b or Sh2n Sh6b.
im going for Sh2n SH6b for more versatility.
as for EMG's clean... to me it sounds abit 'void'
i think you can always go try schecters.
certain models are good. despite the price.
hmm,
Im using a Washburn Idol Series WI64.
supposely to be paired with sh1n sh4b or Sh2n Sh6b.
im going for Sh2n SH6b for more versatility.
as for EMG's clean... to me it sounds abit 'void'
i think you can always go try schecters.
certain models are good. despite the price.
Dime
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you dont really need to care about the wood if you are talking about emgs.they will sound the same in any guitar.
id recommend tone rider but it'll be a hassle to acquire the pickups.not to forget the stock pickups on the 'low-end' schecters are really really impressive.they are really that good in my opinion.
id recommend tone rider but it'll be a hassle to acquire the pickups.not to forget the stock pickups on the 'low-end' schecters are really really impressive.they are really that good in my opinion.
Godspeed64
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For EMGs, it is through that in most cases often than not, the sound of the actives would overpower the tonal characteristic of the wood, hence making the wood a minor component in the tone..
But, wood still plays a role in the guitar's ability to sustain notes, seeing how well the sound resonates..
Eg. You can't really hear Alder's brightness, or Mahogany's deep low end, but you can hear the long sustain of a Mahogany body.. :mrgreen:
But, wood still plays a role in the guitar's ability to sustain notes, seeing how well the sound resonates..
Eg. You can't really hear Alder's brightness, or Mahogany's deep low end, but you can hear the long sustain of a Mahogany body.. :mrgreen:
Aki S. Ian
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i have to agree with dime and godspeed.
and yes schecters pre installed pickups are already quite good.
and yes schecters pre installed pickups are already quite good.
theunknown
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i soooooooooooooo disagree that TGM is This Guitar Merepek. bloody hell. its not in the brand. its in the sound and that u like it. tone is SUBJECTIVE. the way u(DALE) put it is so downgrading. the way u say should be different. if people like it, they like. brands to me is just for the MOJO. although generally i can say that lower end brands of course is expected to sound NOT AS GOOD.
diamond cost thousands.
steel cost..CHEAPER.
so what if a person prefers steel?
diamond cost thousands.
steel cost..CHEAPER.
so what if a person prefers steel?
Whats your budget to start out with thats the most imp qn?
In the end it dosen't matter which guitar u choose, but rather really like the guitar that u end up choosing. So that youll practise more and play better. I assume you're just starting out?
At this point, what is more impt in choosing the guitar is build quality rather than tone.
That means, low action, no buzzing, no dead frets and gd intonation. Also is the width of the fretboard comfortable for you. Is the neck too fat or thin? Whats the quality of the hardware? Does the guitar stay in tune when u bend the strings or use the whammy bar?
All these are more impt when starting out. You can always eq the sound and vary the gain. As they say tone is in the fingers!!!!
So its better to get a gd guitar that get all these factors right and last u a reasonable period of time.
Recommendations:
Schecters have a nice build quality for the price. If u can afford it id recommend the korean parker guitars. Excellent build quality, great intonation, gd quality hardware and electronics. The grover 18:1 tuners stay in tune better than the gotoh. Graphtech nut and ebony fretboards are stuff usually found in more expensive guitars. Also coil taps for added versatility. For under 1k theres the parker p42 and parker pm10.
More cash to spare? The pm20 pro even comes with schaller locking tuners and tonepros bridge and seymour duncan pups.
O btw, i have both the parker p42 and pm20 pro just so u know.
In the end it dosen't matter which guitar u choose, but rather really like the guitar that u end up choosing. So that youll practise more and play better. I assume you're just starting out?
At this point, what is more impt in choosing the guitar is build quality rather than tone.
That means, low action, no buzzing, no dead frets and gd intonation. Also is the width of the fretboard comfortable for you. Is the neck too fat or thin? Whats the quality of the hardware? Does the guitar stay in tune when u bend the strings or use the whammy bar?
All these are more impt when starting out. You can always eq the sound and vary the gain. As they say tone is in the fingers!!!!
So its better to get a gd guitar that get all these factors right and last u a reasonable period of time.
Recommendations:
Schecters have a nice build quality for the price. If u can afford it id recommend the korean parker guitars. Excellent build quality, great intonation, gd quality hardware and electronics. The grover 18:1 tuners stay in tune better than the gotoh. Graphtech nut and ebony fretboards are stuff usually found in more expensive guitars. Also coil taps for added versatility. For under 1k theres the parker p42 and parker pm10.
More cash to spare? The pm20 pro even comes with schaller locking tuners and tonepros bridge and seymour duncan pups.
O btw, i have both the parker p42 and pm20 pro just so u know.
doggieshaman
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well personally i really don't like TGM, but if you could convince me I might get one? so why should one buy TGM? of those I've tried, acoustics and electrics alike, the construction was shoddy, the neck and frets felt uncomfortable to play on and the electronics were, to say the least, not too good.
maybe i'm just an unlucky dude.... hahaha.
if it is worth getting a TGM only to replace the parts urself, then maybe next time i'd get one?
maybe i'm just an unlucky dude.... hahaha.
if it is worth getting a TGM only to replace the parts urself, then maybe next time i'd get one?
theunknown
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well..maybe im the lucky one here. got a wonderfully constructed TGM. quality control is low huh.
im just pissed off by the way dale said about TGM. got point, no explaination no example.
just a straight forward insult.
doggieshaman: i dont know about other TGMs but mine is wonderfully constructed. prove? man...if only i can upload a guitar. mine has no problems at all. if only i can upload a guitar. well of course until it came to my hands.
im just pissed off by the way dale said about TGM. got point, no explaination no example.
just a straight forward insult.
doggieshaman: i dont know about other TGMs but mine is wonderfully constructed. prove? man...if only i can upload a guitar. mine has no problems at all. if only i can upload a guitar. well of course until it came to my hands.
Aki S. Ian
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get a schecter then, you its worth modifying.
and dude no point getting upset over an insult.
just keep this in mind, the human thats in control. not the guitar.
so what if brand 'A' is lousy. if placed in a good guitarist's hands, it becomes a good guitar.
so what if brand 'B' is good. if placed in a very bad guitarist's hands. it becomes a very bad guitar.
and dude no point getting upset over an insult.
just keep this in mind, the human thats in control. not the guitar.
so what if brand 'A' is lousy. if placed in a good guitarist's hands, it becomes a good guitar.
so what if brand 'B' is good. if placed in a very bad guitarist's hands. it becomes a very bad guitar.
Godspeed64
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Who cares about brand dude.. My epiphone pawns half the Gibsons I've tried..
If it sounds and feels good, it is good.. Price is not an indication of how good a guitar is, only how much the manufacturer deems the guitar is worth in the market..
When the staff at Zen Guitarshop asked how much I thought the Stagg Tele costs, I said probably a 1000 plus? And it turned out it was only 250.. Heh..
Frankly, I think some guitars are too overpriced (like Gibsons), and some are underpriced (like Swing)..
If it sounds and feels good, it is good.. Price is not an indication of how good a guitar is, only how much the manufacturer deems the guitar is worth in the market..
When the staff at Zen Guitarshop asked how much I thought the Stagg Tele costs, I said probably a 1000 plus? And it turned out it was only 250.. Heh..
Frankly, I think some guitars are too overpriced (like Gibsons), and some are underpriced (like Swing)..
theunknown
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Godspeed: then ur GIBSON SG give me la...hehe. u go already have epiphone SG what...kehkehkeh
THOA
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Reason that some guitar brands become sought after is because the brand association and reputation that those guitars have build over the YEARS in the business in terms of quality and tone. That doesn't mean "shoddy" is alien to them. There are bound to be unsatisfactory conditions even at the highest of QCs.
Of course, if TGMs does not meet your personal QC standards, why SHOULD you buy TGM?
If they are as bad as you say they are to be, I highly doubt they would have the power to stay in the market this long. Or maybe those imperfections you stated are just psychological associations of the brand?
In my early days of trying to find my first guitar, I had considered TGM as my axe. I don't remember any construction shoddiness that turns me off about it. Ok, so I was a newbie back then, so I can't judge tone to save my life but construction, I can pretty much get a sense of any flaws (researching on what to look out for helps
)I decided not to get it in the end simply because of the low reselling power TGM has, which is a practical thought rather than any perceived sub-par standards of the guitar. :mrgreen:
Godspeed64
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Firstly, its Godspeed64 dude... SIXTY FOUR..
Haha.. My Gibson SG was bought after careful planning lah.. My Epi pawns most Gibbies I've tried, my Gibby pawns all the other Gibbies I've tried.. LOL :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
burt
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Bro, your question is like trying to mod a Lancer 1.6 into an Evo.
It is almost possible, but the end result sucks, and you are likely going to end up paying more. No offends to those Lanvo guys out there. I know so many out there, each one a spit, I would drown.
Save up for that Gibson/Fender/ESP/whatever you fancy, never go for copies or the sub-class siblings. Coz you will never get past yourself.
It is almost possible, but the end result sucks, and you are likely going to end up paying more. No offends to those Lanvo guys out there. I know so many out there, each one a spit, I would drown.
Save up for that Gibson/Fender/ESP/whatever you fancy, never go for copies or the sub-class siblings. Coz you will never get past yourself.
Aki S. Ian
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but a char and a guitar is two different thing.
i have to agree on THOA's point.
i have to agree on THOA's point.
naviros
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this question is easy enough to answer. If you're into EMG pick ups, get the pick ups. If you're into SG type body, get a SG type body of your specification, and change it to them EMGs. Simple?
Take for example, I like LPs, but they don't exactly have the pick-ups that I like, but you pick the body thats best suits your specs, get 'em and swap pups. EASY AS THAT.
Price wise is for you to weigh, as opposed to asking, since there are literally millions of permutations possible. Just make sure the new guitar that you're buying for the body is feature rich enough for you, and the pups fit your taste of tone.
Take for example, I like LPs, but they don't exactly have the pick-ups that I like, but you pick the body thats best suits your specs, get 'em and swap pups. EASY AS THAT.
Price wise is for you to weigh, as opposed to asking, since there are literally millions of permutations possible. Just make sure the new guitar that you're buying for the body is feature rich enough for you, and the pups fit your taste of tone.
lester_music
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I have own a few Fenders, a Gibson...G&L(USA)...before
I sold them all...
NOw a $180.00 ARia satisfied me...of course..neck is loaded with SD stack pickup...
LOL
THe world class guitarist get free guitars for using them..and I have to pay for them...think i will just save up for other practical things...hehe
honestly....it is just the brand...hehe
I sold them all...
NOw a $180.00 ARia satisfied me...of course..neck is loaded with SD stack pickup...
LOL
THe world class guitarist get free guitars for using them..and I have to pay for them...think i will just save up for other practical things...hehe
honestly....it is just the brand...hehe
