boss DD7
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PatheinRaindropMoe
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most looper dont have such setting. Looping will be looping and delay will be delay.
And since the basis of looping is essentially a long delay setting by itself, thats why most of the time, we cant have both at the same time
only one i came across which can do that, is the line6 dl4. Not sure if theres any other delay(with looping function) that can do such thing.
And since the basis of looping is essentially a long delay setting by itself, thats why most of the time, we cant have both at the same time
only one i came across which can do that, is the line6 dl4. Not sure if theres any other delay(with looping function) that can do such thing.
Godspeed64
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I like the fact that the Analog delay mode on the Hardwire sounds damn realistic.. Haha.. So yeah.. Give it a shot! Wanna buy one while in China or what?
keithC
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hoho my next purchase as well, been weighing the pros and cons of the dd7 and hardwire dl8 for too long!
hardwire has more effects, sound quality is much better. 20sec looper.
dd7 seems to sound worse according to many reviews, i heard that the analog mode doesnt sound good at all. and the usual "sterile, cold" boss digital repeats. but, its looper is 40sec. and it has an external tap tempo input.
the hardwire doesnt, no matter what, you gotta wait 2secs to use the tap on the pedal itself.
so im still deciding between the two, the dd7 is much more affordable and practical if you are solely gonna use it for looping. (i dont really know anyone who seriously needs 40sec of looping, 20 is enough). but the hardwire is just.. nice. looks better, sounds better but i know i dont need all of it.
regarding looping sound quality, i havent heard looping from the dd7 yet. but my guess is that there shouldnt be much of a difference.
both pedals cant loop and activate delay after that.
my dd20 can do that, however the looping is only 10 secs, which isnt enough for me at times. im not sure about the akai headrush as well... yep 2 cents!
hardwire has more effects, sound quality is much better. 20sec looper.
dd7 seems to sound worse according to many reviews, i heard that the analog mode doesnt sound good at all. and the usual "sterile, cold" boss digital repeats. but, its looper is 40sec. and it has an external tap tempo input.
the hardwire doesnt, no matter what, you gotta wait 2secs to use the tap on the pedal itself.
so im still deciding between the two, the dd7 is much more affordable and practical if you are solely gonna use it for looping. (i dont really know anyone who seriously needs 40sec of looping, 20 is enough). but the hardwire is just.. nice. looks better, sounds better but i know i dont need all of it.
regarding looping sound quality, i havent heard looping from the dd7 yet. but my guess is that there shouldnt be much of a difference.
both pedals cant loop and activate delay after that.
my dd20 can do that, however the looping is only 10 secs, which isnt enough for me at times. im not sure about the akai headrush as well... yep 2 cents!
Ized
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i disagree. The DD7's analog mode sounds close to the DM2 when i ABed them both. it sounds better than the DD20's analog mode too.
Its a bang for buck delay. Best part is that Analogman uncovered the fact that it dosent completely digitize your signal (which the DD20 and those pesky line 6 and nova delays may do) and the dry signal goes nowhere near the digital repeats. Dry signal is pure analog
Its a bang for buck delay. Best part is that Analogman uncovered the fact that it dosent completely digitize your signal (which the DD20 and those pesky line 6 and nova delays may do) and the dry signal goes nowhere near the digital repeats. Dry signal is pure analog
Ized
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to answer your question, yes it is adequate if you'r content with just doing simple looping stuff and layering. Don expect it to be able to do delay while looping (i have another delay for that) or store loops to recall. If you'r interested in that get a dedicated looper like a boss RC2, or like what keith mentioned a dd20 but that has its limitations.
Another flaw which puts me off about the hardwire is your foot has to be on it during the whole duration of recording the loop. You have to hold it down while playing and release when you'r done - which can be a bit cumbersome during a performance if you ask me. I prefer the simple tap record and tap to end a looping phase on the DD7 anyday.
PatheinRaindropMoe
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any info on analogman discovering the dd7 wont digitalised the sound?
not sure if you mean the dry signal at the input goes thru a buffer(usual boss buffer which cant be switched off)), one path goes to the output directly while the other goes to the delay circuit and at the end, the dry signal and the delay signal is mix together again while controlled via the mixed knob?
not sure if you mean the dry signal at the input goes thru a buffer(usual boss buffer which cant be switched off)), one path goes to the output directly while the other goes to the delay circuit and at the end, the dry signal and the delay signal is mix together again while controlled via the mixed knob?
Whitestrat
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IF you mainly need a looper more than anything else, then the DD7 would be the one... If you want a "nicer" sounding delay pedal and loops are 2ndary, then the DL8 would be my choice.
But YMMV...
But YMMV...
Whitestrat
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Not really. I for one would like to be able to loop a full passage of Little Wing so I can play over it... 20secs ain't enuff. Heh... Gimmie a whole minute please...
PatheinRaindropMoe
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if need longer looper, just get one which can put in sd card to extend the looping timing. Digitech jam man one of those.
the boss one rc2 can record up to 16mins if just using 1 of the 11 loops setting
wanna over the top features for looping in pedal format, electro harmonix 2880 looper is one to get. Its basically a 4 track recorder but in pedal format. This one also can use sd card to extend the record timing as well
the boss one rc2 can record up to 16mins if just using 1 of the 11 loops setting
wanna over the top features for looping in pedal format, electro harmonix 2880 looper is one to get. Its basically a 4 track recorder but in pedal format. This one also can use sd card to extend the record timing as well
wasabe19
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think i'm leaning towards the DD7 too. i gotta go give it a run first tho. i read that the hardwire series has reliability issues too but i dont know how far that's true. thanks for the help so far. btw i do have a BYOC delay so adding a delay effect to a layer in the loop isnt much of a problem.
Ized
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That says...alot. You can go to the PGS demo on the DL-8 and see for yourself. Holding down the pedal just to record a loop is quite cumbersome, and it does not allow you to connect an external footswitch or tap tempo.
Pathein, run a search on the dd7 on TGP. Analogman Mike said that he now has the schematic of the DD7 and the dry signal is apparently mixed in the same way as your DD2/3, which does not digitize the entire signal. Some guys have also ran tests and discovered those pedals that digitize your entire signal actually has a certain latency (lag time) which the signal passes through these pedals (like the nova delay).
Besides, the Hardwire line of pedals here are seriously overpriced..... Why pay so much for a DL8 at swee lee...when sweetwater is selling both the DD7 and DL-8 at the same price. If you die die must get the Hardwire, just get it from Ebay using Vpost. Otherwise, a DD7 will set you back at a very affordable 250-260 bucks after discount, first hand.
That being said, i do like the variety and quality of delays in the DL-8, plus its true bypass (it you set it to non-trailing repeats). Just that it looks rather tacky and gimmicky, not to mention bigger and quite a brick.
