Bo Chup audience: Stage fault?

Vio

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i noticed during the recent Street Festival at the stage in front of Cineleisure that even have awesome bands playing awesome music have almost zero crowds standing at the front of the stage.

The band on stage (forgot the name of the band) was going nutz doing their stuff. There was an incredible amount of energy and it was a fantastic performance. Unfortunately the crowd that gathered, about 20 over passerbys, stuck to the sides of the makeshift tent. Almost nobody was standing on the carpeted area in front of the band.

I asked myself why i didn't go to the front since i enjoyed their music, but i got this uneasy feeling too. standing there would instantly label me "weird" while everyone else just backs off.

Don't get me wrong though. It doesn't mean that if there was a bunch of supporters in the front already it would make it easier for the passerby to move in. I'm sure most people who aren't "band-friends" or fans would prefer to stick to the perimeter.


What, then, is the problem?


I'm just an ordinary audience with no expertise in this field, but my take on this issue is the "comfort level" that the audience feels with respect to the stage.

Yes putting it point-blank would mean i think the stage set up is the problem. It's too intimidating psychologically. Firstly if the stage was set too high (stage height at audience chest level), the audience in front feels intimidated (and a neck-ache). And having people walk into an avoided empty space in the line of sight of dozens of bystanders doesn't feel good either. Thus nobody really wants to be in that no-man's-land directly in front of the stage.

... unless there was a generous amount of intoxication on the audience's part.


That being said, maybe gig organisers can look into experimenting with different stage setups to make the audience comfortable enough to wanna headbang in the front without looking awkward.


anybody has any suggestions?
 
I dunno... If it was me, i would politely invite the people to come infront of the stage... Aiya this kinda street audience all pai sei 1 what... Go stand there alone people will think u siao gin na from Buangkok Country Club
 
Yeah it's out in the public... Nobody would want to get caught looking like a 'fool' jumping and moshing. We're a conservative society afterall. What if my friends see me jumping like an idiot? That's what many of us would think.(at least I would)
 
i saw a gig, it was tapestry like 2 years ago (2005)

the venue was just outside far east, and there was no stage or tent whatsoever. the bands just played on the pavement. crowd was good, but what surprised me most was at around 8+ to 9pm, a really good hardcore band started playing, the crowd was huge. there were easily more than 30 people gathered around the band (not including those who watched from far or from wherever they happened to be sitting). even more surprisingly, there were all sorts of people, from young punks to those kaypoh auntie-ahpek passerbys, who stopped to watch and stayed.

so yeah, based on that, definitely the stage. like you said, it probably was too intimidating. singaporeans generally do not want to be heroes or 'special' they just want to disappear into the crowd and follow the flow because it is within their comfort zone. the stage setup was obviously not
 
i tink its the stage too..

cos i shy away from goin near the stage..esp when there's hardly anyone there..hahhaha.



im juz a shy dude la.
 
Elias

Ahhh...finally have the chance (and honour) to say this...
GET SOME AUDIENCE...GET SOME!
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You have learned well my padwan...


BTW me thinks it cant be the stage - its the CROWD

try playing anormal club or pub WITHOUT your kakis / supporters...normal paying audience wanna clap hands also damm hard - like their fingers made of gold and they scare bits & pieces might chip off and get lost! :evil:

its all in the bottom line :wink:
 
i think it is the band. content is still king.

it is the way the band presents itself and MAKE the audience want them. i have so many times heard bands saying on stage,"why you(audience) all look so bored?"

i am like thinking, "dude, your performance IS boring!"

* action = reaction. if the band want reaction from the audience, the band must have the right action(performance).
 
soft: think it is the band. content is still king.

it is the way the band presents itself and MAKE the audience want them. i have so many times heard bands saying on stage,"why you(audience) all look so bored?"

i am like thinking, "dude, your performance IS boring!"

* action = reaction. if the band want reaction from the audience, the band must have the right action(performance).


James I beg to differ .....

anyway IMHO - its a two way street, we muso feed off the audience and audiences want to be entertained....

I have played many gigs for Ang Mo audience (e.g my 3 year stint with Shyyne at Blues Tavern) - they always seem more appreciative of bands, always applauding etc.

The other night I was at St James powerhousse to watch my friend play - big crowd also damm lukewarm response to the "kick ass band" with Ang Mo frontman...

Im not saying all local crowds are bad - some of the gigs that the younger bands are playing in has great support etc as proven here in soft.... I dig that man...however, my opinion on the local pub / club dweller remains unchanged: GOLDEN HANDS WHO ARE SCARED TO CLAP!

*somes you dont get applause even if play their request....
 
like that how? teacher complain students never clap so teacher cannot teach? :wink:

just keep doing our best and the reward is in the doing.
 
sorry bro James but...

teacher teach but student never seem to clap - they only like chating among themselves and send up stupid request for teacher to do over & over again.

Once again - I am voicing my concerns on the majority of local crowds BUT NOT ALL as some of the recent outdoor gigs especially among the younger new jack bands have proved kick ass ...

Maybe its coz the pub dweller thinks the $$$ he paid for his mug of beer dammm big ? :evil:

non the less, I will persevere in my endevours & keep you in the loop of our progress :wink:
 
shinobi - U come & clap for RETRO GROOVE at powerjam semi finals ...

U are the true market leader!
 
two examples of a "smart" way to get people comfortable in front of the stage: Insomnia and Barnone.


both these pubs have their band play the first set, most of the audience are in their comfort zone sitting at their tables just watching from afar. not many people at the front aka "exclusion zone".


when the first set ends, the lights are dimmed and dance music is played on the house system. the dim lights and boogie music get people unto the dance floor, which happens to be the "exclusion zone" since its the only open space left.


the 2nd set begins SNEAKILY. band players sneak up the stage while lights on stage are still off. The dance music is turned off, stage lights are turned on and the band gets in to the 2nd set immediately. no time for the audience to run. it can get quite crazy from there on...


if only we could transfer this concept to an open air gig somehow.
 
Your talking about Singapore Street Festival, right?
There were a few bands that got an audience around, some jumped, because they have gained popularity through lil' gigs and through the internet.

There was a band mocchachocolata, whatever its spelt, I like the songs, but I was sitting by the side enjoying their music.
But of course, they would feel better if I was out in front watching them, but...well, I was doing something, thats why.
 
i think it the bar none tactic can be done on a bigger stage, albeit more aggressively... just need riot police, steel barricades and a taskforce :twisted:

or stage a car accident away from the stage, strategically placed so that the crowd who came to take 4D number will position right in front of the stage.

and then, steel barricades etc etc
 
i tot in Singapore the people here are open minded and not inhibited???

remember the Free Hugs thread? wots the bloody difference?

or indifference. :wink:

This will remain like this forever. 13 years ago when I first step into Singapore the "scene" was even more vibrant than now.

Anyone remember the free gig at Lido where Radioactive and Lewis Pragasam played? PACKED.

New school rock series at the world trade center amphitheater? PACKED

Now? haiyoorrrrr.... :(
 
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