+1, definitely agree, i dun wanna b under the guitar, juz wanna b more distinct, hav a bigger role, not juz soloing.. discussed this topic wif Bong earlier, he's my bass instructor, he was supportive of it, givin me tips on how to work it out, how to fit the guitarist in da band etc. he mentioned dat most bassists wud rather do jazz as it allows dem more freedom compared to rock where the guitars tend to dominate, billy sheehan stands out tho, no matter wad he does, the mark of a true virtuoso :wink: