bad sellers
- Thread starter drumnoob
- Start date
erm for the case u jus mentioned... then i think he has the right to sell it more ex than the US price but cheaper than singapore price as after all, he did lug it back from another country, and it is your benfit that u get someone who bought it overseas... i noe u might think this applies to sweelee sale too but nope, SL sale is a totally different case as there are tons of people Q'ing behind u wanting their stuff, and some inconsiderate MFO's just go infront and take it, that is not a crime but the "crime" is that they take stuff which they end up selling! and they dont need it at all, thge ppl behind on the other hand who need it, lose their equipment to someone who jus wanted to make $50? that is bull, real bull
theblueark
New member
People make a living. They chose how to spend their time to make that living. If you find a proper job, you can probably make $20 an hour. Considering a guy takes 12 hours in the queue, another 1 hour posting ads and replying emails, another 2 hours to travel and meet each person to sell, I would say he makes slightly less than a common clerk.
The lorry thing is in jest because you can't possibly believe you'll earn much doing that. You'll have to hire a lorry, find space to keep all the items you bought, and spend lots of time putting up ads and talking to people who are interested in buying.
My plumber charges me $60 to come to my house, look at my leak, and tighten one nut. I pay him happily because that's 2 hours he could have been fixing a bigger problem for $500.
The lorry thing is in jest because you can't possibly believe you'll earn much doing that. You'll have to hire a lorry, find space to keep all the items you bought, and spend lots of time putting up ads and talking to people who are interested in buying.
My plumber charges me $60 to come to my house, look at my leak, and tighten one nut. I pay him happily because that's 2 hours he could have been fixing a bigger problem for $500.
the question is, does he need the trouble to do so much just to earn our money? is he being considerate that way?
and i believe most are just hobbist and not all are buying in real bulk. it is ok to sell at a marginal profit. my point is that, if u benefit from the sweelee sale, pass the discount back to the market if u r selling it.
and i believe most are just hobbist and not all are buying in real bulk. it is ok to sell at a marginal profit. my point is that, if u benefit from the sweelee sale, pass the discount back to the market if u r selling it.
hey drumnoob, to me $180 for a 8-input mixer is pretty cheap (as what joshie said). i've always gone for mackie or alesis mixers with efx and their 6/8-channels with efx are always above the $200 range. sorry for any offence caused.
neuro182- yeah i saw that goon who posted as you. i think $150 for duncan-designed/ibanez humbuckers is pretty reasonable as compared to that guy who thought i should only go for $50.
neuro182- yeah i saw that goon who posted as you. i think $150 for duncan-designed/ibanez humbuckers is pretty reasonable as compared to that guy who thought i should only go for $50.
Ken
New member
Just read this thread...???????
I dunno what musician mates or sellers or God knows what...if he gets me my gear at a cheaper rate than I can find it, then I am buying from him.
Its about simple supply and demand...harsh and selfish world? Yeah, since when were we virgins in the backwater?
Anybody here dare say they have never been selfish and inconsiderate?
If the dude did the work to get something cheap and then sells it at a slightly higher rate ( but stil cheaper than market rate) to those who want it but dun want to go through the trouble for that cheap sale, good for both parties.
Grow up dudes, that's life. When you work, your Boss profits off the cash you make for the company and pays you just a small fraction of that. So your Bosses unethical as well?
As we all know: Marx was right but he couldn't change a thing...in fact he badly confused matters.
Lastly, if you don't like it, or the idea don;'t buy it. Go the moral high ground and grab it brand new at a much higher price...or simply queue like mad and fight tooth and claw at a sale to get it.... that is if you can wait one year.
Jeez, what a rant.....
I dunno what musician mates or sellers or God knows what...if he gets me my gear at a cheaper rate than I can find it, then I am buying from him.
Its about simple supply and demand...harsh and selfish world? Yeah, since when were we virgins in the backwater?
Anybody here dare say they have never been selfish and inconsiderate?
If the dude did the work to get something cheap and then sells it at a slightly higher rate ( but stil cheaper than market rate) to those who want it but dun want to go through the trouble for that cheap sale, good for both parties.
Grow up dudes, that's life. When you work, your Boss profits off the cash you make for the company and pays you just a small fraction of that. So your Bosses unethical as well?
As we all know: Marx was right but he couldn't change a thing...in fact he badly confused matters.
Lastly, if you don't like it, or the idea don;'t buy it. Go the moral high ground and grab it brand new at a much higher price...or simply queue like mad and fight tooth and claw at a sale to get it.... that is if you can wait one year.
Jeez, what a rant.....
rottenramone
Active member
..
drumnoob
i think your attitude is correct but somewhat misguided. everyday there will be swindlers out there to make a quick buck. be it aunties and magic stones, latest tip off the stock markets or those ppl walking around orchard telling you that you have won some big lucky draw.
the people above, if i apply your reasoning, ought to be locked up in jail. but that's where your common sense kicks in right? i hope so. but sometimes we are being tempted and fall into the trap, so its up to ppl like you to remind them of the pitfalls. i think that's great, but its really too idealistic. if you wanna warn ppl about it, then you'll most likely end up stuck at luther classifieds hounding out those ppl. so just take a step back. if the guy wants to sell at that price, you can't stop him right? at least you're decent enough not to post a stinker on the luther classifieds itself!!
if you really feel a need to do something, you earlier mentioned abt the soft irc chat thing, so why not be proactive and start one?
drumnoob
i think your attitude is correct but somewhat misguided. everyday there will be swindlers out there to make a quick buck. be it aunties and magic stones, latest tip off the stock markets or those ppl walking around orchard telling you that you have won some big lucky draw.
the people above, if i apply your reasoning, ought to be locked up in jail. but that's where your common sense kicks in right? i hope so. but sometimes we are being tempted and fall into the trap, so its up to ppl like you to remind them of the pitfalls. i think that's great, but its really too idealistic. if you wanna warn ppl about it, then you'll most likely end up stuck at luther classifieds hounding out those ppl. so just take a step back. if the guy wants to sell at that price, you can't stop him right? at least you're decent enough not to post a stinker on the luther classifieds itself!!
if you really feel a need to do something, you earlier mentioned abt the soft irc chat thing, so why not be proactive and start one?
rottenramone
Active member
..
hey ixora long time no see!
so its abt +103 for me so far....
hey ixora long time no see!
so its abt +103 for me so far....
3notesAbar
New member
Make that +104 Too bad you never join SG idol. Confirm win!
Should Soft start a RRP-guide for local items? I think even that simple idea takes time to materialize, not to mention effort. Right here, i have to elect Subversion
. Hes probably the best person to do this IMO. Another thing is, where better than Soft.com.sg?
Meanwhile, the best any new musicians can do is to check with their more experienced friends, make calls to local shops to check on prices and so on. If not there's always Superman if hes free...
Too bad you never join SG idol. Confirm win! Should Soft start a RRP-guide for local items? I think even that simple idea takes time to materialize, not to mention effort. Right here, i have to elect Subversion
. Hes probably the best person to do this IMO. Another thing is, where better than Soft.com.sg? Meanwhile, the best any new musicians can do is to check with their more experienced friends, make calls to local shops to check on prices and so on. If not there's always Superman if hes free...
CrispyEgg
New member
i guess drumnoob forgot that there are three kinds of people in the situation he's refering to...
1) the con artist
2) the victim
3) the well-informed
so +1 to ken, if the guy who's selling did the work to get it cheaper, good
for him.
or if i'm badly informed and i end up paying what may be "more" for that item, too bad for me, lucky him.
*i hereby vote that this thread have an anthem:*
"love, love, love makes the world go round... ..."
1) the con artist
2) the victim
3) the well-informed
so +1 to ken, if the guy who's selling did the work to get it cheaper, good
for him.
or if i'm badly informed and i end up paying what may be "more" for that item, too bad for me, lucky him.
*i hereby vote that this thread have an anthem:*
"love, love, love makes the world go round... ..."
rottenramone
Active member
..
+1 to geraldkoh for giving out the +1s to crispy and ken
also +1 to 3nab for +104 for me.
love +1
+1 to geraldkoh for giving out the +1s to crispy and ken
also +1 to 3nab for +104 for me.
love +1
y put con man in the picture? u already said it is business! i believe people in the classified are not con man, but trying their very best not to lose a single cent or make a marginal profit out of their 2nd hand product.
and ken: i totally understand your point. if u read posts earlier, i had also said there got to be a willing seller and buyer. but shouldn't we as musician help our fellow mates? if we can't help them, at least don't hurt them right? i already said i can't change the fact that there r inconsiderate sellers out there. and in regards to your 2 examples, firstly, i believe a glance at the classified, u can clearly see many people selling those stuffs close to retail price. and i do said marginal proift is acceptable.
"Grow up dudes, that's life. When you work, your Boss profits off the cash you make for the company and pays you just a small fraction of that. So your Bosses unethical as well? "
u can see, your boss got to pay lots of other guys as well. the boss also has much more responsibility in him. if u r a shareholder, perhaps things would be different. this example is totalli makes no sense in this context.
rottenramone: hey, of course it is too idealistic. i knew it from the start. but all i wish is that when people who see this, put in the consideration for other people. many things in this world would be better if they follow ideas. sadly it doesn't work that way. regards to the soft chat room thing, my IT knowledge sucks bad.
ixora05: if we can't save then we ignore? if a AIDS patient is bound to die, do we not care?
3notesAbar: the subject here i am trying to say is, if a person won a guitar at a luckydraw. retails at 100. after 1 year, he tried to sold it at 100. i believe that is inethical, n should perhaps be sold at 20 bucks.
CrispyEgg: i don't really think they are con man la.
and ken: i totally understand your point. if u read posts earlier, i had also said there got to be a willing seller and buyer. but shouldn't we as musician help our fellow mates? if we can't help them, at least don't hurt them right? i already said i can't change the fact that there r inconsiderate sellers out there. and in regards to your 2 examples, firstly, i believe a glance at the classified, u can clearly see many people selling those stuffs close to retail price. and i do said marginal proift is acceptable.
"Grow up dudes, that's life. When you work, your Boss profits off the cash you make for the company and pays you just a small fraction of that. So your Bosses unethical as well? "
u can see, your boss got to pay lots of other guys as well. the boss also has much more responsibility in him. if u r a shareholder, perhaps things would be different. this example is totalli makes no sense in this context.
rottenramone: hey, of course it is too idealistic. i knew it from the start. but all i wish is that when people who see this, put in the consideration for other people. many things in this world would be better if they follow ideas. sadly it doesn't work that way. regards to the soft chat room thing, my IT knowledge sucks bad.
ixora05: if we can't save then we ignore? if a AIDS patient is bound to die, do we not care?
3notesAbar: the subject here i am trying to say is, if a person won a guitar at a luckydraw. retails at 100. after 1 year, he tried to sold it at 100. i believe that is inethical, n should perhaps be sold at 20 bucks.
CrispyEgg: i don't really think they are con man la.
3notesAbar
New member
It'll be great if every musician can be more 'giving' by offering cheaper prices for used gear. But then again I'm pretty sure there will be 'garang guni' people scouring classifieds to make some money by reselling these items. Thats probably the state of our market and not to mention a typical thing to expect, knowing our people la........Of course this dosen't justify the 'exhorbitant' resale prices being put up for rag-aged items. But if you had financial problems, bills to pay, and didn't want to lose too much money, wouldn't you put something up for 100 instead of 20 for lowballers?
Similar threads
