bad sellers

[drumnoob]

good day,

i just wanna open a thread and discuss some bad sellers.

from luthermusic, i can always see people offering prices at FXxked up price. recently i saw this ad where he sells his sabian HH 2nd hand set at 600. if i am not wrong, that guy is still a DRUM TEACHER. i mean.. wtf man. shouldn't we help our fellow mates by offering reasonable price and not make a big profit? i am not against marginal profits, but 600 for a 2nd hand set? you might argue that it is up to them to price their products blar blar. but what about newbies like me who blur blur go buy it?

Sweelee sales is another thing. num of ads in all catergories shoot up straight after the sales. what are these guys trying to do man.. buy an iron cobra at 300 and sell at 400?

Date posted : 30 June 2006
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look at this. another idiotic seller. trying to sell higher than mr yamaha.

i seriously hope no softies are guilty of such idiotic and selfish act.

 

[rottenramone]

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if you can't afford it, don't buy it.

 

[neuro182]

drumnoob: i understand ur point of view, but u gotta discern for urself if the price quoted is higher than the usual day sale price. pls note that people queued for hours outside the store in order to buy the items (some to sell it to make profit, while others found that ultimately it doesn't suit them at all).

example: if a guy bought a iron cobra @ $300 (which is half price i assume) & he sells it @ $400, he is making $100 profit rite? imagine u buy on normal day which is around $504, u get to save $104 + a whole lot of camping for the item

lets say, if he buys it @ $300, sells u @ $250. next time u dun wan the iron cobra pedal anymore, wld u sell it below $250? den the next guy who buys from u wants to re-sell, he should sell it way below $250 or even below $200. as this process goes on, then might as well gif the iron cobra pedal away for free. awesome isn't it?

jus my 2 cents worth

 

[slapadelic]

Re: ..

if you can't afford it, don't buy it.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaa... thats funny. You the bomb lah bro. +100

Drumnoob, if you find out how much retailers buy clothing at factory or merchant deals and how much profit they are making out of us... that knowedge might just kill you.

Okie, besides that point, if someone wants to make a profit, and others are willing to pay (regardless of them knowing the market price or not) thats really their business right? If you sell something, and u are able to make a profit, don't tell me you would actively go

"ehh... okie, tell you what, i dont want to make an extra hundred from you... aiyah... since i see you "noob" i throw in cable and strap for you too lah okie? aiyah.. wait... cannot l ah... i think i sell it to you 50 dollars cheaper... i dont want to make anything"

hahahahahhahahahahhaa.... i'm such a basstard.

 

[Guest]

drumnoob, i hope you're reading our replies, looks like you registered yourself in SOFT just to start this thread.

+1 to rottenramone

drumnoob, i guess your focus is wrong. Whenever I see those money-makers on Luther ads, i'm not bothered by how much money they are going to make, whoever they are, teachers, pure businessman, noobs, whoever... they are not forcing you to buy, and you don't need to be so upset by what they are doing.

just focus on these two conditions: 1) the gear you really need 2) the budget you have. If the seller meets both conditions, then, buy. Simple?

err, and you don't have to worry other pple kena con by these money-makers, most of the traders there are not dumb... unless we're talking about pple who knew nothing about gears' prices and buy straight from Luther ads.

Keep grooving. 8)

 

[neuro182]

+1 to sqoobs

 

[rottenramone]

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so it means i is get da +2?

 

[Guest]

it's +102 to you rottenramone,

because:

slapadelic +100, me +1, neuro +1 to sqoobs indirectly +1 to you.

adds up to +102

:lol:

 

[rottenramone]

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bro, wah best, bro bro!

up your pts bro slapedelic bro, bro sqoobs bro and bro neuro182 bro!

 

[joshie]

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if you can't afford it, don't buy it.

haha nice saying. damn true.

 

[neuro182]

drumnoob: lets learn to adapt alrite? if its way too out of hand, i guess some sales police wld gladly do the job for u on luther music..

with all that has been said, shalt we lock this thread? or not? :lol:

 

[joshie]

yea their are good bargains too. like the yamaha mixer with 8inputs or something going for 180dollars. thats pretty freakin cheap. but oh well. lock! haha

 

[drumnoob]

first thing first,

yamaha mixer 8 input 180 is cheap? i doubt so. unless u are sacastic about it.

rottenramone: well it is a good way to put it. anyone can qoute freely in this world. but mind you, i am saying ridiculous qoutes. even higher than retail. how do u feel if u are new and u get caught in such suituation? i am just trying to express and condem such acts. wrong?

neuro182: u has obviously missed my point. i meant selling in a profit (not marginal) as a 2nd hand product. and regards to your example, if one bought it at 250, and resell at 240.. in wat profit is he making? and not only sweelee sales. i am too discussing about normal day retail pricings.

slapadelic: yea it is their own business. u can answer almost anything in tis word with this word "so?" and i don't understand a word of your example at all.

sqoobs: same here, i think there must be a willing buyer and seller for a trade to be successful. but shouldn't we educate or at least change our mentality of making profit out of local musicians?

guys, just speaking of sweelee, what do u think of business minded people queuing up for 2 days in advance in knowledge of they can make thousands of money. if one benefited from something, naturally i wish he could spread it on.

 

[geraldkoh]

you know, i think you are probably just a victim of such people and that's why you are so prejudiced against them. for one, a yamaha 8-input mixer going for $180 is really freaking cheap like joshie said. in reference to your name, you are a drumnoob, so i infer that you are drummer and a noob, so what would you know about studio/rack equipment like mixers? $180 may seem alot to one, but peanuts to another and just right to someone else.

 

[ixora05]

drumnoob, I think what everyone is trying to tell you is--people will sell things at a profit to them, that is the basic principle of doing business. And when you are buying and selling gear, it's still doing business. You can't expect people to sell things at a loss or below standard market rate simply because we are selling drum gear. and current market rates need to be taken into account. especially for people like me--I'm a real n00b when it comes to gear, very new to this--so I do my research and talk to people, and ask opinions on prices and brands and stuff before I buy. it's a responsibility as a consumer

+1 to rottenramone and neuro and slapadelic and the rest. lock i say!

 

[drumnoob]

hey gerald, chill.

http://www.luthermusic.com/cgi-bin/WB_ItemPageGen.pl?t=1152624623&Pid=370&Gid=3030000

check that. tats 10 inputs? or 5? regardless, without sales and discount tats going for 180. so your point? and i believe there r cheaper alternatives to yamaha products.

 

[drumnoob]

yes i understand everyone in this world hates to make losses. anyway tis is a 2nd hand market. it should follow the rough 2nd hand market rate? as i said, marginal profits are fine. but if u benefit from the sale, y nt just pass it on to the next person? or u rather earn a profit out of it. it is up to individual. but i am just against people doing that.

u r right about consumer's responsibilty. but not all know their sources to that. i just simply hope people offer reasonably.

 

[nysk]

actually drumnoob is correct on certain stuffs... i saw the HH cymbals ad too... man that guy has tons of peaple using his cymbals cuz he's a teacher... and last time someone commented that he bought them at the sweelee sale, if its tru then well shame on him cuz b4 this stock of sabians came in the HH set was oni just under 1k so do the math n itll mean he got it for 500... and considering the dozens of students using the cymbals, u can easily take 200 or more off that price...

and yes there are some inconsiderate money minded snobs who buy stuff at the sweelee sale and sell for more ex... im very convinced that the very recent post on the guy selling power glides is a fib where the guy says "not bought at sweelee sale", 350, mint condition, less than a year old... man not from SL sale is bull man! logically someone wldnt keep and iron cobra powerglide twin pedal for sooo long w/o using it b4 deciding to sell... well if he's telling the truth then sry but from the looks of it its total crap...

and as for the zildjian cymbals erm... i think they are quite reasonably priced as in they are fairly good condition (although the fotos are like a yr old??), the oni way that wld be more ex than yamaha if ur thinking the guy used staff discount...

 

[neuro182]

woot, another gerald? :lol: hi anyway..

drumnoob: this is not a communist country. u can control wat others are doing. besides, it isn't a crime to list a price (be it ridiculous or not).

 

[theblueark]

If like that can earn a lot of money, end of year swee lee sales i'll be first in queue, walk in, put my credit card on the table and say "I'll take everything, my lorry is downstairs".