A-kit or E-kit?!
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Schtauffen
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Do you have problems with space?
Neighbours can tolerate acoustic kit in your home when you play?
If you answered yes to any of the top, maybe the DTXplorer or the new DTX500 series if your budget fits since its definitely quieter and takes up less space.
If not? An acoustic kit is always a better choice.
Neighbours can tolerate acoustic kit in your home when you play?
If you answered yes to any of the top, maybe the DTXplorer or the new DTX500 series if your budget fits since its definitely quieter and takes up less space.
If not? An acoustic kit is always a better choice.
With an E-kit, you sacrifice the "feel" of an acoustic kit and you might find that in the future, you can play really well on an E-kit as compared to an acoustic kit. You can actually solve that problem with kits like the Pearl E-pro live kit with the "real" cymbals but it's definitely going to burn a hole in your wallet. Am not sure if any retailers in SG carries it though. Like what Schtauffen mentioned, the E-kit is space effective and the noise level as compared to an acoustic kit is definitely cut down by alot. You could even play the E-kit in the middle of the night.
An acoustic kit would be good as you can learn and understand the different parts of the drum kit if you're starting out. You will also be able to learn how to tune the kit etcetc. An acoustic kit would take up more space and it's definitely loud and could disturb your neighbours. If you have a budget to stick to, an acoustic kit would be a better choice because it will be cheaper as compared to an E-kit. The cheaper E-kits might not be as good because of the heads, sounds, cymbal zones and all that which means cheaper E-kits = restrictions with sounds and the overall performance of the kit. If you have a low budget and noise level is a problem, get an entry level acoustic kit and get muffle/mute heads and cymbal mutes. This will cut down the noise level by about 90% but do know that the feel and rebound of your stick on muffle heads and mutes will be different from a normal drumhead.
Hope this helps! Tell us your budget and what are your restrictions so that we can narrow down the E-kits/acoustic kits for you! There are so many amazing kits out there for you to choose from.
An acoustic kit would be good as you can learn and understand the different parts of the drum kit if you're starting out. You will also be able to learn how to tune the kit etcetc. An acoustic kit would take up more space and it's definitely loud and could disturb your neighbours. If you have a budget to stick to, an acoustic kit would be a better choice because it will be cheaper as compared to an E-kit. The cheaper E-kits might not be as good because of the heads, sounds, cymbal zones and all that which means cheaper E-kits = restrictions with sounds and the overall performance of the kit. If you have a low budget and noise level is a problem, get an entry level acoustic kit and get muffle/mute heads and cymbal mutes. This will cut down the noise level by about 90% but do know that the feel and rebound of your stick on muffle heads and mutes will be different from a normal drumhead.
Hope this helps! Tell us your budget and what are your restrictions so that we can narrow down the E-kits/acoustic kits for you! There are so many amazing kits out there for you to choose from.
Hey thanks so much guys, your advice really helps!
I've actually looked at a couple of kits already, decided to go for an acoustic!
My budget is within a thousand, really hope to get decent ones within that range!
I found pearlforum 5 piece full kit (throne, hardware, 4 cymbals and all) for 1.2k or so!
Then there's the gretsch blackhawk 5 piecefull kit (just like above) for 1.1k or so!
And another selling gretsch blackhawk 5 piece (w/o throne but with rather lousy quality cymbals!) for 950!
Mind pointing me in the right direction as to where I can get better prices/ or better kits? Thank you guys so much!
Really appreciate it!
I've actually looked at a couple of kits already, decided to go for an acoustic!
My budget is within a thousand, really hope to get decent ones within that range!
I found pearlforum 5 piece full kit (throne, hardware, 4 cymbals and all) for 1.2k or so!
Then there's the gretsch blackhawk 5 piecefull kit (just like above) for 1.1k or so!
And another selling gretsch blackhawk 5 piece (w/o throne but with rather lousy quality cymbals!) for 950!
Mind pointing me in the right direction as to where I can get better prices/ or better kits? Thank you guys so much!
Really appreciate it!
Schtauffen
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Better prices with good kits? http://soft.com.sg/forum/forumdisplay.php/53-Drums-Buy-Sell
Some of our fellow users here can sell some very good condition kits at good prices.
I saying this assuming that you're a beginner who just starting this hobby, please pardon me if otherwise.
First question: Are you sound-conscious or just wanna practice?
Practice:
If you just wana practice, do yourself(or your parents) a favour and camp the buy/sell threads. Good drum kits can come along under $500 anytime, matched with good cymbals (eg: range of cymbals from drum_hobbyist) you can get a killer kit that probably cost you another two or three times more if you went to Yamaha or Swee Lee. At the cost of warranty, but the kit that's sitting behind me is 5 years old before I bought it from another softie, probably going to be 6 years now, its still in good condition, like its only bought months ago. Just look out for rusty kits if you mind the cosmetics and stuff, especially the metal parts (brown rust or worse).
If you die-die want first-hand, do consider Ranking Sports or Music Themes, their Lazer/Carlos kit comes around $500 or so first hand with everything ready for you to practice.
For good sound:
If you wanna get a decent first-hand kit in that budget, be prepared to spend abit more. Most kit under a thousand from my knowledge uses stock heads and heads which IMO really sounds like crap which I'm better off playing drums on my table, or pots and pans.
Replacing all the heads of a typical 5-piece kit would take apox $200 from what I know of the current market if you're only changing the batter head(the side you're hitting). Multiply by 2 if you plan to change both sides.
Learn to tune if you haven't, Your kit will sound such that you'll never regret changing the stock heads away.
Another is cymbals, unless you know how to hammer cymbals like some softies I read around who does it, don't bother with stock heads. Get something basic like Zildjian's ZBT, Sabian's B8s/XS20s or even Paistes 101s/202s to begin with if you're not looking to spend hundreds on a single piece of metal. You can even consider other cymbal brands such as Istanbul Mehmet, Wuhan, Dream, etc.
The three brand and series I mentioned comes in set boxes which allows you to begin without worrying about anything unlike someone like me who's missing a proper ride right now.
On a side note: I started with e-kits, a Yamaha DTXplorer.
Some of our fellow users here can sell some very good condition kits at good prices.
I saying this assuming that you're a beginner who just starting this hobby, please pardon me if otherwise.
First question: Are you sound-conscious or just wanna practice?
Practice:
If you just wana practice, do yourself(or your parents) a favour and camp the buy/sell threads. Good drum kits can come along under $500 anytime, matched with good cymbals (eg: range of cymbals from drum_hobbyist) you can get a killer kit that probably cost you another two or three times more if you went to Yamaha or Swee Lee. At the cost of warranty, but the kit that's sitting behind me is 5 years old before I bought it from another softie, probably going to be 6 years now, its still in good condition, like its only bought months ago. Just look out for rusty kits if you mind the cosmetics and stuff, especially the metal parts (brown rust or worse).
If you die-die want first-hand, do consider Ranking Sports or Music Themes, their Lazer/Carlos kit comes around $500 or so first hand with everything ready for you to practice.
For good sound:
If you wanna get a decent first-hand kit in that budget, be prepared to spend abit more. Most kit under a thousand from my knowledge uses stock heads and heads which IMO really sounds like crap which I'm better off playing drums on my table, or pots and pans.
Replacing all the heads of a typical 5-piece kit would take apox $200 from what I know of the current market if you're only changing the batter head(the side you're hitting). Multiply by 2 if you plan to change both sides.
Learn to tune if you haven't, Your kit will sound such that you'll never regret changing the stock heads away.
Another is cymbals, unless you know how to hammer cymbals like some softies I read around who does it, don't bother with stock heads. Get something basic like Zildjian's ZBT, Sabian's B8s/XS20s or even Paistes 101s/202s to begin with if you're not looking to spend hundreds on a single piece of metal. You can even consider other cymbal brands such as Istanbul Mehmet, Wuhan, Dream, etc.
The three brand and series I mentioned comes in set boxes which allows you to begin without worrying about anything unlike someone like me who's missing a proper ride right now.
On a side note: I started with e-kits, a Yamaha DTXplorer.
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faithsilence
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http://soft.com.sg/forum/showthread.php/208172-WTS-Tama-Artstar-Drum-set-with-free-cymbals-thrown-in!
Check out this Tama ArtStar II, comes with maple shells and cymbals for $500, If you dunno, Tama Artstars were Tama top of the line in the 1980s. I believe you just need to polish the hoops and change the heads and you will have a excellent sounding kit. The cymbals shld be able to get you started. Good cymbals dun come cheap but you can get a decent deal from the Sell and buy section.
Check out this Tama ArtStar II, comes with maple shells and cymbals for $500, If you dunno, Tama Artstars were Tama top of the line in the 1980s. I believe you just need to polish the hoops and change the heads and you will have a excellent sounding kit. The cymbals shld be able to get you started. Good cymbals dun come cheap but you can get a decent deal from the Sell and buy section.
If you're looking at great sounding drums, you'll have to pay attention to the wood the drum is made of. Slightly lower end kind of kits uses woods like basswood and poplar. The better woods (which would cost you more) includes wood like birch, bubinga, mahogany, a couple of exotic woods and the most commonly used, maple. If you're heading to recording with your kit and all that, the higher end kind of drum kits would be good but if it's solely for the sake of practice but you still want your kit to sound good, get a reasonable entry-level kit and upgrade the stock heads!
For myself, I have a Pearl Target kit (got it first hand for 800 at a discount), shells made of basswood but after changing the heads, the drums sounded alot better.
As for cymbals, if you are intending to take up drums seriously, I would suggest that you invest in high quality cymbals. Brass or B8 cymbals do not sound as good as B20 cymbals and you might get tired of them and want a better sound over time. If you were to get a Brass cymbal set, it might probably cost about 200-300 first hand and when you want to sell it off, nobody might be interested in buying them unless you let them go really, really cheap. For B20 cymbals, it might cost you around 300 or so PER cymbal first hand but when you're looking at selling it off to purchase other cymbals, it might still fetch in a price of around 200 or so therefore, in a way, it's more worth your cash.
Look around the Buy and Sell section! There are always good deals around. You can also look around for quality cymbals are good prices too. The ad faithsilence mentioned seems like a very good deal for a maple kit. Just work on polishing and tuning it and you will get a pretty great sounding kit! Good luck!
For myself, I have a Pearl Target kit (got it first hand for 800 at a discount), shells made of basswood but after changing the heads, the drums sounded alot better.
As for cymbals, if you are intending to take up drums seriously, I would suggest that you invest in high quality cymbals. Brass or B8 cymbals do not sound as good as B20 cymbals and you might get tired of them and want a better sound over time. If you were to get a Brass cymbal set, it might probably cost about 200-300 first hand and when you want to sell it off, nobody might be interested in buying them unless you let them go really, really cheap. For B20 cymbals, it might cost you around 300 or so PER cymbal first hand but when you're looking at selling it off to purchase other cymbals, it might still fetch in a price of around 200 or so therefore, in a way, it's more worth your cash.
Look around the Buy and Sell section! There are always good deals around. You can also look around for quality cymbals are good prices too. The ad faithsilence mentioned seems like a very good deal for a maple kit. Just work on polishing and tuning it and you will get a pretty great sounding kit! Good luck!
TO Schtauffen
Wow! That's a chunk of information I really need to get into me! Thanks for that dude, really nice of you!
I actually when to music theme and had a look around, got the price range i mentioned just now. I intend to go for a kit that is really decent sounding and of course to practice. I'm considering either the gretsch blackhawk they have or the pearl forum! But they don't come with the cymbals. So it's either zildjian paiste or sabian (like you mentioned)!
Let's say I get the pearl and what brand do you think I should go for(cymbals)?
Regarding the heads, even a pearl forum kit would sound bad? :/
Sorry, amateur here!
Thanks so much for the advice schauffen!
Wow! That's a chunk of information I really need to get into me! Thanks for that dude, really nice of you!
I actually when to music theme and had a look around, got the price range i mentioned just now. I intend to go for a kit that is really decent sounding and of course to practice. I'm considering either the gretsch blackhawk they have or the pearl forum! But they don't come with the cymbals. So it's either zildjian paiste or sabian (like you mentioned)!
Let's say I get the pearl and what brand do you think I should go for(cymbals)?
Regarding the heads, even a pearl forum kit would sound bad? :/
Sorry, amateur here!
Thanks so much for the advice schauffen!
Thanks for the info on wood! I saw a gretsch made with maplewood, it costs almost double of the basswood(I think) one. Hmm, cymbals I think I'll be getting a 4 piece starter from either zildjian paistes or sabian. what do you think is good?
Hmm so actually if I change the drum heads to better ones and tune them properly, they sound a lot better?
Thank you!!!
Hmm so actually if I change the drum heads to better ones and tune them properly, they sound a lot better?
Thank you!!!
If you're looking at buying first hand and comparing the Blackhawk and Forum, I would suggest getting the Forum kit if the Blackhawk shells are made of Basswood. If you dont mind getting second hand kits, look at the Buy and Sell section! There are a number of kits around for you to choose from. Some of the kits even have upgraded skins or extra cymbals or cymbal stands and they total up to less than 1k!
For cymbals, what kind of starter packs are you interested in getting? If you're looking at cheaper bronze cymbals, you can check out the Sabian B8/B8Pro range. For Zildjian, the ZHT/ZXT/ZBT. Paiste, the Paiste 201 and PST5. Forget about brass cymbals, they will just be a waste of your money. If you are looking at B20 bronze cymbals, which is the standard bronze for the professional line of cymbals, check out the Sabian Xs20 range. Made of B20 bronze and they are priced much cheaper as compared to the other professional B20 cymbals. Take a look at the cymbals drum_hobbyist sells! He is letting go of a Xs20 20" medium ride at $180. http://www.soft.com.sg/forum/showth...-you-may-be-looking-for?p=1141001#post1141001
Also a couple more assorted cymbals:
http://www.soft.com.sg/forum/showthread.php/208245-Assorted-Cymbals-For-Sale?p=1141361#post1141361
For cymbals, what kind of starter packs are you interested in getting? If you're looking at cheaper bronze cymbals, you can check out the Sabian B8/B8Pro range. For Zildjian, the ZHT/ZXT/ZBT. Paiste, the Paiste 201 and PST5. Forget about brass cymbals, they will just be a waste of your money. If you are looking at B20 bronze cymbals, which is the standard bronze for the professional line of cymbals, check out the Sabian Xs20 range. Made of B20 bronze and they are priced much cheaper as compared to the other professional B20 cymbals. Take a look at the cymbals drum_hobbyist sells! He is letting go of a Xs20 20" medium ride at $180. http://www.soft.com.sg/forum/showth...-you-may-be-looking-for?p=1141001#post1141001
Also a couple more assorted cymbals:
http://www.soft.com.sg/forum/showthread.php/208245-Assorted-Cymbals-For-Sale?p=1141361#post1141361
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