10 Things I'll never do

[LEMONed_Z]

yes. i was already prepared for negative feedbacks. but just didn't expect so much. 8O

 

[amnesiac]

LoL well, look @ the number of people on soft.. so you can bet a lot of people will read it, not not all will reply. don't stop posting

 

[Vaiyen]

I am perfectly aware both postive and negative comments are within the scope of discussion, but I'm just wondering why they choose to respond the way they do. It's more of a personality issue for me than a simple 'rules of forum' issue.
For example, many things that are frowned upon in society are not illegal, like cutting queue and talking loudly in cinemas, but does that mean you have to do it just because you can?

 

[amnesiac]

i agree with you on that la. but again, no offense to lemoned_z, he didn't really state his purpose in why he started this thread. so honestly, the impression i got was that he was calling people who use those brands that he mentioned 'gear snobs'. but now, everything seems clearer to me so no offense taken on my side as well. just a mis-communication i guess.

 

[jumbofret]

amnesiac, I remember the time you accused me of calling everyone who uses a Fender/Gibson/Ibanez etc a brand-name snob. That was purely your assumption, and you didn't comprehend what I posted.

Don't do it again.

PS I guess you must be using a Fender or a Gibby, eh?

 

[Vaiyen]

no offence meant to anyone too. it's just a trait I observed in all the forums I've been to.

 

[flash_tay]

haha........well now that we know LEMONed_Z's intention is to enquiry about the possible alternatives to the common brands of guitars, i think we should continue with that........

i myself personally look forward to people's opinions on alternatives to fender,gibson,ibanez,prs guitars and those that LEMONed_Z listed......

 

[amnesiac]

amnesiac, I remember the time you accused me of calling everyone who uses a Fender/Gibson/Ibanez etc a brand-name snob. That was purely your assumption, and you didn't comprehend what I posted.

Don't do it again.

PS I guess you must be using a Fender or a Gibby, eh?

haha yea, that's why i am more careful about it now. you are right, i have got 2 fender basses, and i love them a lot!

 

[LEMONed_Z]

not only alternative guitars. amps, pedals, even other accessories.

I start with my take on les pauls. I used to exchange guitar with my friends on temp basis. Once i managed to get a Gibson Les Paul Black Beauty and doodle with it for 3 months. I was kinda excited to try out a real deal les paul. but i was kinda disapointed to find that the general construction and comestics can be matched by other jap lawsuit models i've tried like... hmm burnys, which is fraction of the price. I was also dissapointed when the i played the Black Beauty, the tone doesn't feels superior to the copies at all, with price difference in mind.

At first i tot it wouldn't be a fair conclusion since i'm playing thru a practice amp. but then again if amp is one important factor to tone (which i feel, actually plays a big part) then it does not justify why, to pay 3-5 times more for a Gibson, when for a fraction of the price, i can get a copy that plays well and is constructed well? and use the remaining cash to invest in a gd amp.

Ok, so at jamming studios, i got to play the Black Beauty thru another amp. i did an experiment, we rent the rm, with 2 similar amps, 2 randalls combos. I tweak both amps, same settings. The gibson into one and the other guitarist's burny into another. and we both, agree that, both, sounds close.
so, why buy a gibson when there are other equally well made alternative les pauls? this have puzzled me for a long time.

not saying the Black Beauty is no good. just that the price is too pricely... because of the brand??

Another story of what i'll call a 'gear snob'. Once, i was at swee lee. There's this couple, the husband is purchasing a Gibson Les Paul Standard. He's choosing a hard case for it. The wife actually said, 'Pick the most expensive one, it's a Gibson, it deserves the most expensive case!' what a.... #@^$#@^ best part is the husband plays like he's a beginner. i'm already a horrible guitarist, and he's worse. 8O

 

[flash_tay]

LEMONed_Z i agree with you on the fact that the Gibson Les Paul Series these days is overly priced......i myself am actually a big fan of the Gibson Les Paul but after i have heard it out.......i agree that the Jap copies like Tokai are actually on a par with the Gibson models for only a third of the original price.....i would think that Gibson uses it's worldwide name to push the price up ....personally i have been quite disappointed by the quality of worksmanship of
the Gibson Les Paul......I am under the impression that after a specific year the construction of the their guitars were very different......

hahaha........to them they are bringing in their own income so they personally feel that they have the cash to spend........i have seen a lot of such cases....even when i was at swee lee to get my guitar repaired there was this couple and the husband started taking the les paul custom plus.....the firebird all which carry the gibson brand and all he did was to play 1 chord before stoning at it.........while at the same time having 3 Gibsons around him to test.......for us we can't afford such luxuries i would say hence we settle for lesser......and why buy a gibson when you can't play like slash......

as long as you can play well it will sound good on any guitar......

 

[AgingYouth]

one thing I'll never do.

1) Start a thread stating 10 things that I'll never do.

Bro, why siah???? Why won't you do it, bro???


Peace.

Shake the disease.

 

[vernplum]

Another story of what i'll call a 'gear snob'. Once, i was at swee lee. There's this couple, the husband is purchasing a Gibson Les Paul Standard. He's choosing a hard case for it. The wife actually said, 'Pick the most expensive one, it's a Gibson, it deserves the most expensive case!' what a.... #@^$#@^ best part is the husband plays like he's a beginner. i'm already a horrible guitarist, and he's worse. 8O

Personally, I can't see anything wrong with that. In fact i think it's quite sensible - if you are paying for something so expensive you want the best protection, and if you have the dough to be able to fork out for a top-of-line guitar, don't you want the case that goes with it? I do. It affects the resale value too - imagine an ad with "Les Paul Standard plus OHSC (original hard shell case)" is going to be a better puller than "Les Paul Standard w/ACME gig bag".

And beware of anti-snobbery (commonly called 'inverted snobbery') of which I myself plead guilty of in the past and see many others falling prey to. Just because someone doesn't play like Slash or Zakk Wylde, does this mean that they shouldn't have good gear if they can afford it? To each their own and within their means, I say. if it makes them happy, who are we to call them snobs? Music and musical instruments should make people happy - the listeners, the players, and even owners who don't play, can't play (or play like beginners - everyone is a beginner at some point) and don't even know the difference between a PRS Private Stock and Squier Bullet.

 

[LEMONed_Z]

ya true la, they got money and it's their money. but it's the way the wife put it sounds irritatingly snobbish. just cannot tahan. :lol:

 

[Vaiyen]

did they say it out loud also? maybe they wanna brag, haha.

 

[vernplum]

ya true la, they got money and it's their money. but it's the way the wife put it sounds irritatingly snobbish. just cannot tahan. :lol:

Peace brother - anyway... you wanna buy a used PRS Custom 24 (OHSC)?

 

[flash_tay]

lol i thought buying prs guitars is top on his 10 never to do things list? :lol:

 

[wangdexian]

I am perfectly aware both postive and negative comments are within the scope of discussion, but I'm just wondering why they choose to respond the way they do. It's more of a personality issue for me than a simple 'rules of forum' issue.
For example, many things that are frowned upon in society are not illegal, like cutting queue and talking loudly in cinemas, but does that mean you have to do it just because you can?

Yeah, the "don't reply if you don't like it" issue, no one's forcing anyone to like for example, go into a slipknot thread and shout slipknot sucks.

 

[LEMONed_Z]

did they say it out loud also? maybe they wanna brag, haha.

yeah...loud. obviously she's bragging. i was looking at the acoustics and they were at the area with the hard cases. if u remember the layout at bras brasah swee lee... that's quite a distance.

 

[wangdexian]

That's loud.
Or maybe sweelee bb has good acoustics. 8O