Yamaha Motif...Back in Black!!!

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The next generation of the Motif is coming & in black colour! They've finally decided to do something with the colour. Somehow, I always find synths look good in black or silver :-D

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2010/08/10/yamaha-motif-xf-first-video-preview/

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2010/08/12/motif-xf-exploration-continued/

Here's the official update http://asia.yamaha.com/en/products/music-production/synthesizers/motif_xf8/?mode=model


So does that mean a price cut on the XS soon :-D
 
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What that means is that you have to change your user name from "SilverBeast" to "BlackBeast"! :)
 
The 2GB Flash RAM is the real exciting bit. Finally, larger samples (entire instruments) can be loaded. The fact that it's flash is excellent (although I'm sure they Yamaha will charge a bomb for the flash memory). Hopefully Roland and Korg follow suit.
 
I try a bit in Yamaha. It is a bit better than XS in term of going through the whole board. Some button and label make more sense. The look is much better than XS.
 
Anyone noticed more "black beauties"?...Roland has released the RD700NX & FP-7F, both with the supernatural piano. I wonder how much it'll cost.

Interestingly, it seems makers are going towards upscaling their existing models.

Hmmm, will Korg come up wih M3X? :-D
 
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kongwee said:
I try a bit in Yamaha. It is a bit better than XS in term of going through the whole board. Some button and label make more sense. The look is much better than XS.
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tried the XF today, wasn't much impressed ?!
looks like it's similar to the XS

in terms of sound, I felt the XS sounds warmer as I played it several times with
the same Yamaha speakers at Plaza showroom

maybe some other guys want to comment ?

price wise:
XF6 - 3799
XF7 - 4299
XF8 - 4799

XS7 - 2969
 
The main thing about XF is not about the sound, it's the flash RAM. It's definitely a revolutionary break. I wonder why it took a manufacturer so long to have the option to add RAM into a keyboard. A 2GB RAM option means that you can load more than just a few loops - you can literally load, for example, a large piano sample with 16 samples/note. And because it's a flash RAM, it means the memory stays in the RAM and you don't have to reload it every time the keyboard is turned on. I can only see this getting better - hope the day will come when they expand it to 8GB of RAM. Then we can literally load in full palettes of orchestral instruments, for example. My only reason for not getting new keyboards and is because I rely on my notebook of which gives me instruments/synth sound way better than keyboards can (to my preference). And the problem is the memory limitations of keyboards. The wait is finally over.

As for the Roland RD700NX, I don't see any innovation except the SuperNatural Piano (probably that's what the "N" stands for). They should have added expansion slots for their SuperNatural sounds instead. Coming up with a new keyboard because of adding SuperNatural sounds makes one think they are just slowing down in innovation, has no new ideas, and was just coming up with a new model for the sake of it. Of course, they did upgrade their keybed to PHA III but I'm not sure if that upgrade is worth the while. It just make the RD series look a little more like the V-Piano, that's all. It may be worthwhile for a new buyer, but questionable for a person who already owned a previous model of RD700. The improvement of RD700GX to RD700GXF to RD700NX is head-scratching. Their pianos are already good enough for the stage - it's hard to pick up subtle nuances by the audience from stage. The only reason for extremely expressive piano would be for recording - and for a pianist/keyboardist who is so particular on piano sound (like me), they would have gone for softsamplers anyway (which fits for studio applications). Roland should have spent more time and energy on expanding their hardware - like what Yamaha did. Roland's Audiokey was a breakthrough. This time, sorry...no go for me.
 
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Cheez said:
The main thing about XF is not about the sound, it's the flash RAM. It's definitely a revolutionary break. I wonder why it took a manufacturer so long to have the option to add RAM into a keyboard. A 2GB RAM option means that you can load more than just a few loops - you can literally load, for example, a large piano sample with 16 samples/note. And because it's a flash RAM, it means the memory stays in the RAM and you don't have to reload it every time the keyboard is turned on. I can only see this getting better - hope the day will come when they expand it to 8GB of RAM. Then we can literally load in full palettes of orchestral instruments, for example. My only reason for not getting new keyboards and is because I rely on my notebook of which gives me instruments/synth sound way better than keyboards can (to my preference). And the problem is the memory limitations of keyboards. The wait is finally over.
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as far as I know, Yamaha did introduced the Flash RAM 12 years back with Yamaha EX5 series (Blue Monster).
however, only 256MB which is the kind of memory size back then
 
I didn't know the EX5 had Flash RAM. 256 MB can certainly do loops, but not full instruments.
 
Well, I guess this should be another thread, but since we are talking about flash RAM...

Tyros 4 is going to be out in a few weeks. And rumours has it that it also has expandable flash RAM (the same ones for MOTIF XF). How cool is that!!!!
 
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