shenanigans
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im looking for a volume swell pedal.. can anyone recommend me more pedals other than the byoc lazy sprocket?
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im looking for a volume swell pedal.. can anyone recommend me more pedals other than the byoc lazy sprocket?
Radius_Vector
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Boss Slow Gear SG-1.
Catch is that theyre about as easy to find as pins in a haystack
Youre best bet would be a volume pedal, really. Unless, someone knows a boutique maker who makes these pedals.
Catch is that theyre about as easy to find as pins in a haystack
Youre best bet would be a volume pedal, really. Unless, someone knows a boutique maker who makes these pedals.
theblueark
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Another alternative is the Guyatone Slow Volume SV-2. It's a clone of the old SG1.
malicedoll
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hi guys can i ask some qns
1st-wats the diff from 500H and 500L ( boss vol pedal)
2nd -i heard vol pedal suck tone, do this boss vol pedal suck tone
and wat do suck tone actually mean ?
3rd- i only hv 3 pedals ( DS-1 , CH-1 ,DD-3) all form boss
if i use a boss vol pedal ,would it be more better(sinic all use same brand)
4th-i scare mixing other pedal brand will sound not as nice (i not so sure ,as i'm new to pedals,playing 3 years b4 i got my 1st pedal lol)
5th-wats the max number of effects can 1 connect 2gther?
i gladly thanks those who can ans my nub qns,thanks every1
1st-wats the diff from 500H and 500L ( boss vol pedal)
2nd -i heard vol pedal suck tone, do this boss vol pedal suck tone
and wat do suck tone actually mean ?
3rd- i only hv 3 pedals ( DS-1 , CH-1 ,DD-3) all form boss
if i use a boss vol pedal ,would it be more better(sinic all use same brand)
4th-i scare mixing other pedal brand will sound not as nice (i not so sure ,as i'm new to pedals,playing 3 years b4 i got my 1st pedal lol)
5th-wats the max number of effects can 1 connect 2gther?
i gladly thanks those who can ans my nub qns,thanks every1
Radius_Vector
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I dont know about your Q1, but others, here goes:
Q2: Suck tone implies that the pedal takes away vital frequencies from your tone, when bypassed.. Commonly observe in Non- True Bypassed pedals. This does not imply that True Bypass alone is good, theres are many opinions behind this, you can try googling
Q3: Same brand or not, doesnt matter
Q4: You can make any combination, any brand, as long as you think it sounds good. Majority of good drive tones are obtained by cascaded gain,
Which means using around 3-4 OD pedals in a row, each adding a little bit of gain on its own to give the final tone. Good results have been obtained with this.
Q5: Theres no limit really. The largest pedal board Ive seen is one using 45+ effects, the board being atleast 12 foot wide.
The main consideration you should have in case you plan to expand your pedalboard:
1) Non TB pedals suck tone, and when many are used, it REALLY sucks tone.
2) A row of 15 TB pedals are not good as well, leads to giant variations in tone while the pedal is engaged/disengaged. Please google more.
3) Multiple pedals call for tap-dancing, so youll have to invest in a looper.
Hope this helps!
Q2: Suck tone implies that the pedal takes away vital frequencies from your tone, when bypassed.. Commonly observe in Non- True Bypassed pedals. This does not imply that True Bypass alone is good, theres are many opinions behind this, you can try googling
Q3: Same brand or not, doesnt matter
Q4: You can make any combination, any brand, as long as you think it sounds good. Majority of good drive tones are obtained by cascaded gain,
Which means using around 3-4 OD pedals in a row, each adding a little bit of gain on its own to give the final tone. Good results have been obtained with this.
Q5: Theres no limit really. The largest pedal board Ive seen is one using 45+ effects, the board being atleast 12 foot wide.
The main consideration you should have in case you plan to expand your pedalboard:
1) Non TB pedals suck tone, and when many are used, it REALLY sucks tone.
2) A row of 15 TB pedals are not good as well, leads to giant variations in tone while the pedal is engaged/disengaged. Please google more.
3) Multiple pedals call for tap-dancing, so youll have to invest in a looper.
Hope this helps!
shenanigans
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bringing up a super old thread. im STILL confused about this after 1 year!
okay. so i have been using a Boss FV500L (low impedance) after my drives and before my mod effects. is this right? btw all my drives are TBP pedals..
dunplayplay
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I think after reading 5 pages of comments in this thread..
I'm more sold on getting the visual sound volume pedal.
I'm caught between the ernie ball jr (250k passive) and visual sound volume
pedal. But after all, the bottom line is going for tone.
So getting the visual sound volume pedal is a better catch over the
ernie ball junior 6180 volume pedal?
I'm more sold on getting the visual sound volume pedal.
I'm caught between the ernie ball jr (250k passive) and visual sound volume
pedal. But after all, the bottom line is going for tone.
So getting the visual sound volume pedal is a better catch over the
ernie ball junior 6180 volume pedal?
PatheinRaindropMoe
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a typical volume pedal is like the volume knob on the geetar, except that its put on the floor and control by foot. What it has, is really just a variable resistor, like the potentiometer in our geetar. There is no circuit inside not any special mojo magik for "tone" in it..
what the visualsound volume pedal has, is a buffer circuit and the extra led display, which imho an useful indication. The buffer circuit is an active circuit and its in there for a purpose.
heh, take a bet and get the one you have budget for. Its your sound, your tone, your music, be in control of it!
good luck
what the visualsound volume pedal has, is a buffer circuit and the extra led display, which imho an useful indication. The buffer circuit is an active circuit and its in there for a purpose.
heh, take a bet and get the one you have budget for. Its your sound, your tone, your music, be in control of it!
good luck
dunplayplay
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Thanks for the reply.
Can I say that a passive volume pedal may result in slight drop in the
treble frequency area? That's what I mean by a slight degration of tone
loss.
Hence, correct me if i am wrong, whether your guitar is passive/active,
ain't getting an active volume pedal still the most recommended option
has it has a buffer which serves the purpose of solving tone loss?
Can I say that a passive volume pedal may result in slight drop in the
treble frequency area? That's what I mean by a slight degration of tone
loss.
Hence, correct me if i am wrong, whether your guitar is passive/active,
ain't getting an active volume pedal still the most recommended option
has it has a buffer which serves the purpose of solving tone loss?
PatheinRaindropMoe
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1) No, it doesnt mean passive volume pedal=tone loss. If thats the case, no manufacturer will be producing passive vol pedal. Theres lotsa talk about tone loss and most of the time, reading it extensively online often make one hear tone loss even before having the gear and playing with it.
2) Buffer exist for a reason, some people doesnt like how buffer changes the inherent characteristic of the sound. Again, some can hear it, some cant. And matter of fact, depending on the pedals we have, in our setup, some has buffer as part of the circuit itself. If theres another pedal in the setup with buffer, its good enough to ensure that the signal integrity aint compromised. Theres no need to add another buffer in there. It aint a more buffer, better it is situation btw.
anyway, forget bout tone loss for a while, go for the one that you want most. Ernie ball volume pedal is almost like a defacto standard for passive volume pedal, if it really cause tone loss, no one will be using it.
and if the visualsound one coz of the buffer, can solve all "tone loss" issues, everyone will have one on their board.
imho
2) Buffer exist for a reason, some people doesnt like how buffer changes the inherent characteristic of the sound. Again, some can hear it, some cant. And matter of fact, depending on the pedals we have, in our setup, some has buffer as part of the circuit itself. If theres another pedal in the setup with buffer, its good enough to ensure that the signal integrity aint compromised. Theres no need to add another buffer in there. It aint a more buffer, better it is situation btw.
anyway, forget bout tone loss for a while, go for the one that you want most. Ernie ball volume pedal is almost like a defacto standard for passive volume pedal, if it really cause tone loss, no one will be using it.
and if the visualsound one coz of the buffer, can solve all "tone loss" issues, everyone will have one on their board.
imho
dunplayplay
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wow hey! thanks for the extensive reply! really appreciated!
Anyway, if you're interested in my updates, due to budget contraint, i bought
myself a mint ernie ball jr volume (passive) for $100. I plug it together with my
other pedal boards and it works really just great!
The feedback i have is: I tried plugging with both the volume pedal on board
and off board. I just realise there's 0.0000000001% (super negligible) of tone
loss in the treble frequencies. Its really hard to tell there's even a tone loss.
Like what you said, indeed ernie ball is the standard industry. Its my very first
volume pedal and i am really happy about my purchase. Thank you so much
for the peeps here who helped me in a way or other on my questions. =)
Anyway, if you're interested in my updates, due to budget contraint, i bought
myself a mint ernie ball jr volume (passive) for $100. I plug it together with my
other pedal boards and it works really just great!
The feedback i have is: I tried plugging with both the volume pedal on board
and off board. I just realise there's 0.0000000001% (super negligible) of tone
loss in the treble frequencies. Its really hard to tell there's even a tone loss.
Like what you said, indeed ernie ball is the standard industry. Its my very first
volume pedal and i am really happy about my purchase. Thank you so much
for the peeps here who helped me in a way or other on my questions. =)
