clayedhead
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any advise on how can i introduce more triads to my licks ?
triads.
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guitarman78
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Homework dear ... you must do loads of homework ...
Find out all positions of say C maj triad and it's inversions .... You know composition of C is C,E G right? Draw out a fret board diagram and mark down all C,E and G notes ... then you will see the light. You can play C in CEG or EGC or GCE.
Do the Same for chords like Cmaj7, Am, G7, Bdim.
Find out all positions of say C maj triad and it's inversions .... You know composition of C is C,E G right? Draw out a fret board diagram and mark down all C,E and G notes ... then you will see the light. You can play C in CEG or EGC or GCE.
Do the Same for chords like Cmaj7, Am, G7, Bdim.
clayedhead
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what bout using triads to locate e position of e major scale?
guitarman78
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hmmm ... dunno if i an interpreting your question correctly .... you want to fit the triad into a major scale? Well, i have good news for you .... every note in the Traid IS is the major scale ... that depends on how much of the major scale do you know. If you know your Major scale well enough .... you wouldn't be asking this question. 
You need to know every note of the particular scale on the fretboard ... use the fretboard diagram .... mark out every note of the major scale on it. You will be able to see alot of patterns, shapes and stuff .... then formulate your own Traids, Arpeggios, Scales, Modes, etc. Put a little effort ... just draw it out and study it.
Hope that answers your question.
You need to know every note of the particular scale on the fretboard ... use the fretboard diagram .... mark out every note of the major scale on it. You will be able to see alot of patterns, shapes and stuff .... then formulate your own Traids, Arpeggios, Scales, Modes, etc. Put a little effort ... just draw it out and study it.
Hope that answers your question.
clayedhead
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okay, thanks for e info. im not trying to change e subject but modes are really giving me a headache.
guitarman78
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It always does ... Master your Maj scale ... modes are just variation in keys ... nothing more than that.
Master your Maj scale ... modes are just variation in keys ... nothing more than that.
clayedhead
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alright. thanks a lot for ur advice. im focusing on lydian, mexy and dorain now.
Yeap, you can do that Ized, but there are some quirks you should take note of....
"As long as the note fits nicely"
That usually means a "safe" way of playing. Like some people who play a melodic minor scale would think its a HORRID scale. Or a whole tone scale is a useless, pointless scale.
Even if you do try those weird scales, your application will be limited by choice of chords/backing. Play C Am F G, then try to play C mixolydian over it, or Am F C G and play A Locarian over it. You wouldn't be bringing out the character of the modes effectively.
Sometimes, it makes more sense to do nonsensical things. Like play an E F# G# A progression... or Am Cm kind of progressions. Weird stuff to push you to get out there and play differently.
"As long as the note fits nicely"
That usually means a "safe" way of playing. Like some people who play a melodic minor scale would think its a HORRID scale. Or a whole tone scale is a useless, pointless scale.
Even if you do try those weird scales, your application will be limited by choice of chords/backing. Play C Am F G, then try to play C mixolydian over it, or Am F C G and play A Locarian over it. You wouldn't be bringing out the character of the modes effectively.
Sometimes, it makes more sense to do nonsensical things. Like play an E F# G# A progression... or Am Cm kind of progressions. Weird stuff to push you to get out there and play differently.
You can memorise all the modes, triads, scales etc without practical playing application. What's most important is understanding how the note you want to play relates to the key. If you want a b9 sound over that chord, do you know which note to hit? Or in your head are you thinking and struggling which position to press? Most people are in the latter category because their rely on their eyes more than their ears when it comes to playing. They SEE shapes, they don't HEAR shapes and that's why they can't apply what they have 'memorised'.
Using stuff 'out of the box' is a good thing but only if its intended and not by 'accident'. Imagine this, you go to the spice rack, grab a random number of spices to season a steak. Tastes great? Well its an accident because the result was unintended. Same thing for any art, the intention behind the choice is everything. That's where true understanding takes place. No need to explain theoretically, but understand the sound in relation the current key. How? Many ear training methods nowadays which you can use. Just do a search.
Using stuff 'out of the box' is a good thing but only if its intended and not by 'accident'. Imagine this, you go to the spice rack, grab a random number of spices to season a steak. Tastes great? Well its an accident because the result was unintended. Same thing for any art, the intention behind the choice is everything. That's where true understanding takes place. No need to explain theoretically, but understand the sound in relation the current key. How? Many ear training methods nowadays which you can use. Just do a search.
Goose, Bopakeh's good. Ear training is something crucial to guitar playing and actually, he's the only guy who mentions it here in the guitarist section.
He has links to sites with ridiculously good ear training material... eh goose, come join me lah, ear training 101. :twisted:
He has links to sites with ridiculously good ear training material... eh goose, come join me lah, ear training 101. :twisted:
rottenramone
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hmm.. i guess slowly over time after seeing the shapes you'll begin to hear what you're playing, ear training or no.
i'm not really that melodic, but i guess a good way to develop would be singing your scales as you play along with your scales
hmm.. i guess slowly over time after seeing the shapes you'll begin to hear what you're playing, ear training or no.
i'm not really that melodic, but i guess a good way to develop would be singing your scales as you play along with your scales
clayedhead
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yeah im training to recognise modes by ear.