Tight Low End

zen1000

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Anyone knows how i might really get a clean, tight bottom with my G&L 2K? A preamp goin to help? Amps are constantly changing due to different venues, so what box can i use to constantly get a tight, fat lows?
 
Welcome fellow GnL bro! Care to share your Bass pics? Haha
So glad to find another GnL brother. I suggest using a compressor to get a tight low end.
Do you engage the series switch(centre switch, forward position)? It gives a hotter(more bass) output that way.
 
G & L

Heheh good to hear from another G&L mate too...

Well i just bought an Aphex Punch factory, but I think the effect is more audible if i plugged into a PA instead of into a Crate B-15 amp...

I use the series alot but somehow it seems that its less articulate and sometimes distorted as compared to parallel... I like to get the marcus-millerish kinda sound for slapping.. but i love the funky sound when i am on the bridge pickup...

A qn:

How do i achieve tight lows with the bridge pickup, yet still deep and not middle-ish??

Hear from ya soon ;)
 
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thicker gauge strings! i use .107s

i've downtuned my SR to DGCF... if not for the thicker gauge, it would be major flubby.
 
Hmm I also have a Punch Factory that's a very transparent unit.
I hardly turn off the series as it would make my bass sound less full.
I have not experienced distortion before.
For a deep sound, I use a tube pre-amp for additional warmth in addition to the series switch.
 
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rottenramone said:
thicker gauge strings! i use .107s

i've downtuned my SR to DGCF... if not for the thicker gauge, it would be major flubby.

do you have to re-file the nut for thicker string?or just put it on and do some minor adjustment on the bridge?
 
Tight Lows

So far I dont have to file the nut to put thicker strings but if your nut is too small u might have to get someone to do it for you.. About the bridge Im not too sure.

Corlando: Isee isee.. What tube pre-amp do you use? Im now using my newly acquired Aguilar DB-924.. sounds good mostly when I switch to passive mode, parallel..
 
I used a SansAmp BDDI->Behringer MIC 200->Bass Xciter->Punch factory
Now using EBS ValveDrive->Bass Xciter->Punch factory.
I always run at series with the other two switches at center position.
My best sound however is simply Mesa Boggie M-Pulse 360->Alesis NanoCompressor
 
Wow that stuff all looks pretty high end. In any case how do you find your bass Xciter? Does it create a pretty much standard sound or is the sound still variable on the bass and player?
 
I had some low end stuff too bro.(Behringer Bass V-AMp, Behringer Tube-pre, PD7/SanAmp BDDI) That were supposed to emulate all the high end stuff.
But my friend gave me a piece of advice, "Just get the ultimate one and stop there. Than you can stop buying all the products that try to emulate it"
The Bass Xciter's purpose for me is to "correct" the amps that I use(Jamming studio $practice amp)till I get the balanced sound I want hence making a cheap amp "force" out the best sound.
Than I run whatever else is in my signal chain after fine tuning the amp.
Unlike BBE's aural xciters, Aphexis better at handling the low end does not overload the speaker like the BBE, but BBE has a overly dead quiet clean signal.
Bass Xciter is on a different league as the SansAmp. It is used to squeeze out the harmonical frequencies(not exactly frequencies like an EQ) out of the amps. It's like a musical version of an EQ. "Excite Frequencies" so they say of a typical Aural Exciter.
 
Hmmm I was considering the Aphex Xciter seriously until last night's gig. I got a nice deep yet articulate punch out of my crate amp using the Aphex Punch Factory. Really glad i got it now. And yea throughout i was using the series setting except during a slap song when I changed to parallel, but i upped the volume and bass boost to compensate...

Anyway I checked out your passionvolume site. Good stuff.. Keep on playing ;)
 
Thanks. Too bad haven't recorded the new better singer yet.
Recorded & Mixed at Snakeweed Studios. No $$$ for mastering.
I used SansAmp only for the 1st song(still unsastisfied with the tone), my Mesa Boggie(pumped the tubes)for the 2nd song, and my Mesa Boggie plus BBE Acoustic 386 Pre-AMmp for a acoustic Bass emulation for the final song.
All songs recorded using my one and only GnL ASAT Bass.
 
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reyrey said:
do you have to re-file the nut for thicker string?or just put it on and do some minor adjustment on the bridge?

so far no need to file... alhough its a bit looser than standard tuning, it hasn't jumped outta its place yet.
 
hello zen, you have there a pretty decent bass guitar, G&Ls are very verstile instruments.
i know it c/w a lot of switches on board.
the sound you are trying to acheive is the 'marcus' deep tone and high snappy slaps right?
you have to use single coils ala jazz bass or try to install a coil spilt switch on your bass, i.e to allow the splitting of your dual coil pickups to 'single' coil mode. it should be simple to install...really.
alternatively, you can use a zoom 506 and copy the marcus eq settings on your outboard eq and finetune.
oh last of all you will need the SADOWSKY outboard preamp......
the mojo is is in the jazz bass config....two single coil spaced apart...you know lah!
 
No need to switch pickups. The parallel switch(anti-bass boost) reduces the super duper dual humbuckers effect making it seem like single coils.
Marcus Miller's Bass was custom built by a professional luthier. The Fender MM Bass is just based on the design. MM also uses Sadowsky and other tonnes of high end amps to get the best sound so it's hard to come close even.
Together with a superb sound engineer of course.
 
He uses EBS .. =)

i tried the MM signature 5 before .. it really emulated his sound .. but the low end fullness was missing .. i know he's using some kind of tube preamp man .. can't miss that out ..
 
colarndo, you are a moron..get your frikkin facts right...idiot!

maccus miller's bass was not custom built in any way...
it is a stock 70's fender jazz bass with a bartolini preamp modified by roger sadowsky installed.

a simpler way would be to use a jazz bass, turn both the vol and tone controls up full and run a sadowsky out board pre amp between the bass and amp...control the output from the outboard preamp.
 
Colarndo said:
No need to switch pickups. The parallel switch(anti-bass boost) reduces the super duper dual humbuckers effect making it seem like single coils.
Marcus Miller's Bass was custom built by a professional luthier. The Fender MM Bass is just based on the design. MM also uses Sadowsky and other tonnes of high end amps to get the best sound so it's hard to come close even.
Together with a superb sound engineer of course.

Very wrong on many counts:
A switch that wires two single coils in parallel is not an anti bass boost. The character of a single coil pickup and parallel wired single coils are quite different. Marcus Miller's bass is a stock '70s Fender jazz that had modifications done by R Sadowsky. The Fender Marcus Miller Signature bass is modelledclosely on Marcus Miller's modified factory made instrument. Marcus Miller endorsed SWR and then EBS. In the Studio his sound via his reordings sound like he DIs via a decent preamp, or impedance matching amplifier, and is processed. Live, he used an SWR and now he uses EBS, nothing exotic. I don't recall Marcus Miller being flirtatious with amplification equipment endorsements or usage, so I don't know where the tonnes of high end amps comes in, as a matter of audible fact,if you have ever listened to any of his recordings at all, you may discover that very very few of his bass tracks sound like a mic'ed speaker, or for that matter an SWR or EBS preamp run direct.
 
Daer Ovid, I was merely describing the sound which many people who have owned a GnL Bass have commonly refered to as a bass boost(series), therefore I simplified the terms by calling it anti-bass boost(parallel).

As for MM's bass, I apologise for the error. Please forgive me
:D I got mixed with with the customisation part.
 

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