Plastic
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Oh. Damn. Damn. Damn.
THE FOOTBALL THREAD Vol 2
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doggieshaman
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AFC doesn't really produce many players, they buy the players from other clubs, say Cesc Fabregas was from Barcelona, and then they groom them.
I watch Liverpool play, as always, and that 2004 season made me watch Arsenal play at the same time, I do not support them, but I liked henry back then. :mrgreen:
Actually, AFC does produce many good players who happen to be English, just that they arent good enough for Wenger: Matt Upson, Bentley, Hoyte are among the few who I can remember... and "grooming" players is more important don't you think? not like they "grow" superstars at the nou camp, I'm sure people like the err new hotshot krjic or something, or messi, came from somewhere else before barcelona picked them up.
I do hope Wenger gives the current crop of arsenal english youngsters chance to shine though, mark randall, kieran gibbs, all look quite impressive in the very short time they have played
doggieshaman
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talking about academies, west ham is like ownage... i mean liverpool academy and everton academy is awesome too, i mean they made wayne rooney, leon osman, and a couple others didn't they? Everyone knows about the famous pool youngsters
other notable academies - spurs... though I hate them (arsenal fan here), crystal palace, manchester united (arsenal fan here again.) and ASTON VILLA.
sadly foreign players are still better and cheaper so english players usually struggle
other notable academies - spurs... though I hate them (arsenal fan here), crystal palace, manchester united (arsenal fan here again.) and ASTON VILLA.
sadly foreign players are still better and cheaper so english players usually struggle
doggieshaman
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Oh, and european youth academies: AJAX, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Athletico Madrid, AC Milan... actually a lot of European teams make awesome players
fgl
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Wenger - It's interesting and challenging draw
Arsenal v Liverpool
Champions League Q/F Leg 1
Emirates Stadium
Wed, Apr 2, 2008, 7.45pm
By Matt Fortune
Arsène Wenger believes that Arsenal’s pairing with Liverpool in the Quarter-Final of the Champions League will be both interesting and challenging.
The draw was made on Friday afternoon at Uefa headquarters in Nyon, Switzerland. It means a triple-header against the five-time European champions at the start of April — the two-legged tie sandwiching a Premier League fixture at Emirates Stadium.
League position would suggest that Arsenal are favourites to progress, but Wenger is well aware of the Merseysiders’ threat, especially in Europe.
“It is an interesting and challenging draw,” said the Frenchman. “It is a big opponent and we play them three times [in a week] and you will not know what competition it is. All that you will know is it is Liverpool.
“They raise their game in the Champions League. We know we can beat them and therefore it is the form of the day that will be the decider. We will focus and concentrate to be at our best on the day.
And is clashing with an English side a problem? Wenger doesn’t think so.
“Not especially,” he said. “You know when you have four clubs from England in the Quarter-Final, you will have to play one or two at some stage.
“If you want to go to the final and win the final you have to get through that.”
Arsenal v Liverpool
Champions League Q/F Leg 1
Emirates Stadium
Wed, Apr 2, 2008, 7.45pm
By Matt Fortune
Arsène Wenger believes that Arsenal’s pairing with Liverpool in the Quarter-Final of the Champions League will be both interesting and challenging.
The draw was made on Friday afternoon at Uefa headquarters in Nyon, Switzerland. It means a triple-header against the five-time European champions at the start of April — the two-legged tie sandwiching a Premier League fixture at Emirates Stadium.
League position would suggest that Arsenal are favourites to progress, but Wenger is well aware of the Merseysiders’ threat, especially in Europe.
“It is an interesting and challenging draw,” said the Frenchman. “It is a big opponent and we play them three times [in a week] and you will not know what competition it is. All that you will know is it is Liverpool.
“They raise their game in the Champions League. We know we can beat them and therefore it is the form of the day that will be the decider. We will focus and concentrate to be at our best on the day.
And is clashing with an English side a problem? Wenger doesn’t think so.
“Not especially,” he said. “You know when you have four clubs from England in the Quarter-Final, you will have to play one or two at some stage.
“If you want to go to the final and win the final you have to get through that.”
fgl
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Barclays Premier League
Emirates Stadium
Saturday, March 15, 2008, 5.15pm
Arsenal
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Middlesbrough
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By Richard Clarke
Arsenal's month of destiny starts on Saturday with the visit of Middlesbrough to Emirates Stadium.
Arsène Wenger had two major targets before the start of the season and, in mid-March, he believes his side are well-placed to win both the Premier League and the Champions League.
And, the business end of the campaign starts right here, right now.
Arsenal need a win against Gareth Southgate's side. Three straight draws has seen their Premier League lead cut to just a single point with second-place Manchester United cushioned by a game in hand. Sir Alex Ferguson's side visit rock-bottom Derby on Saturday so when Wenger's team run out at Emirates Stadium for their 5.15pm kick-off (UK time) they are likely to have been overtaken.
That will require an immediate response from Arsenal because in the following three weeks they must visit direct title rivals Chelsea and Manchester United. And there is also a triple-header against Liverpool, one game in the Premier League and two in the Champions League. Speaking at Friday's press conference, Wenger seemed fully aware of what lay ahead.
"It is a very interesting period for us," he said. "The next month will tell us more about all the teams and I am very confident on my side that we will show how strong we were.
"We know it is down to us and our performances but I am very relaxed and very confident. This team has fantastic mental strength. We were under big pressure when we went to Milan, and you did not see that pressure in our game."
However, as great as that San Siro victory was, it represents Arsenal's only win in their last six games. The last three Premier League fixtures have ended all level and have been seen as sign of jangling nerves. Wenger, though, remains unruffled.
"I'm not concerned because I feel they were down to special circumstances," he said.
"For me Birmingham was a big accident, a special day. And at Wigan, it was difficult to switch on again after such a high against Milan. Also we played against a side that fights not to go down and that didn't help us at all.
"Genuinely, I believe the players want to do well in both competitions. Don't forget we have lost just one game since the beginning of the season in the Premier League and in the Champions League we have lost one as well and that was when we had already qualified."
There was a doubt over Theo Walcott (thigh) when Wenger spoke to Arsenal TV Online on Thursday. The following day he was cleared to feature, but the winger has only trained once in the past week.
Kolo Toure and Robin van Persie made their returns from injury last weekend at Wigan - but only as substitutes. Tellingly, on Friday, Wenger said both had improved their match-fitness markedly over the past five days. They could start. Emmanuel Eboue is back from his domestic suspension so the only absentees are Eduardo (broken leg), Abou Diaby (calf) and Tomas Rosicky (hamstring).
Ironically, that solitary Premier League defeat came at Middlesbrough. Southgate's side did get a respectable draw at Aston Villa in midweek but their season suffered a massive blow when they lost unexpectedly to Cardiff City in the FA Cup Quarter-Final last Sunday.
"They are the only team that have beaten us," said Wenger. "So on Saturday we want to pay them back and get ourselves back to winning ways."
He concluded: "I really believe that this is a big game for us."
If all goes to plan that will be the case from now until the end of the season.
Emirates Stadium
Saturday, March 15, 2008, 5.15pm
Arsenal
-
Middlesbrough
-
By Richard Clarke
Arsenal's month of destiny starts on Saturday with the visit of Middlesbrough to Emirates Stadium.
Arsène Wenger had two major targets before the start of the season and, in mid-March, he believes his side are well-placed to win both the Premier League and the Champions League.
And, the business end of the campaign starts right here, right now.
Arsenal need a win against Gareth Southgate's side. Three straight draws has seen their Premier League lead cut to just a single point with second-place Manchester United cushioned by a game in hand. Sir Alex Ferguson's side visit rock-bottom Derby on Saturday so when Wenger's team run out at Emirates Stadium for their 5.15pm kick-off (UK time) they are likely to have been overtaken.
That will require an immediate response from Arsenal because in the following three weeks they must visit direct title rivals Chelsea and Manchester United. And there is also a triple-header against Liverpool, one game in the Premier League and two in the Champions League. Speaking at Friday's press conference, Wenger seemed fully aware of what lay ahead.
"It is a very interesting period for us," he said. "The next month will tell us more about all the teams and I am very confident on my side that we will show how strong we were.
"We know it is down to us and our performances but I am very relaxed and very confident. This team has fantastic mental strength. We were under big pressure when we went to Milan, and you did not see that pressure in our game."
However, as great as that San Siro victory was, it represents Arsenal's only win in their last six games. The last three Premier League fixtures have ended all level and have been seen as sign of jangling nerves. Wenger, though, remains unruffled.
"I'm not concerned because I feel they were down to special circumstances," he said.
"For me Birmingham was a big accident, a special day. And at Wigan, it was difficult to switch on again after such a high against Milan. Also we played against a side that fights not to go down and that didn't help us at all.
"Genuinely, I believe the players want to do well in both competitions. Don't forget we have lost just one game since the beginning of the season in the Premier League and in the Champions League we have lost one as well and that was when we had already qualified."
There was a doubt over Theo Walcott (thigh) when Wenger spoke to Arsenal TV Online on Thursday. The following day he was cleared to feature, but the winger has only trained once in the past week.
Kolo Toure and Robin van Persie made their returns from injury last weekend at Wigan - but only as substitutes. Tellingly, on Friday, Wenger said both had improved their match-fitness markedly over the past five days. They could start. Emmanuel Eboue is back from his domestic suspension so the only absentees are Eduardo (broken leg), Abou Diaby (calf) and Tomas Rosicky (hamstring).
Ironically, that solitary Premier League defeat came at Middlesbrough. Southgate's side did get a respectable draw at Aston Villa in midweek but their season suffered a massive blow when they lost unexpectedly to Cardiff City in the FA Cup Quarter-Final last Sunday.
"They are the only team that have beaten us," said Wenger. "So on Saturday we want to pay them back and get ourselves back to winning ways."
He concluded: "I really believe that this is a big game for us."
If all goes to plan that will be the case from now until the end of the season.
doggieshaman
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ohhhh Arsenal beat AC milan already, that is enough to make my season hha
fgl
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I reply to certain ppl who made their point regarding AFC not producing enough from their youth squad - look at it this way.
A club has to attract yout to their youth academy. AFC attracts them YOUNG and not limited to the English shores. Fabregas and Anelka are prime examples.
Even when AFC buys players - they are not the big time superstar type players....
remember Wenger's word: WE DONT BUY SUPERSTARS, WE MAKE THEM
A club has to attract yout to their youth academy. AFC attracts them YOUNG and not limited to the English shores. Fabregas and Anelka are prime examples.
Even when AFC buys players - they are not the big time superstar type players....
remember Wenger's word: WE DONT BUY SUPERSTARS, WE MAKE THEM
fuzztremecho
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I am for Arsenal win vs Liverpool
for this game, I'll join your corner bro
for this game, I'll join your corner bro
fuzztremecho
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typical Red fan bro
nevermind we chase for 1-2 spot
they chase with everton lah 3-4 whateva
and they are being courted by Dubai International Capital = DIC (K)
and they have a Hicks and a Gillet
so what do they have= a Hick-up Dic (k) in need of a Gillet (e)
nevermind we chase for 1-2 spot
they chase with everton lah 3-4 whateva
and they are being courted by Dubai International Capital = DIC (K)
and they have a Hicks and a Gillet
so what do they have= a Hick-up Dic (k) in need of a Gillet (e)
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