The Best FireWire Audio Interface? (to record drums as well)
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ha i guess this is a good post to post my noob comments ha...
yea i know the Presonus Firepod is good.. it cost close to 1K right?
hey does anione knows where to buy it and also do it comes with a bundle software. does sinamex does presonus products?
another question that i have is... is a mixer counted as an interface as well?? if a mixer can transmit MIDI signal to a computer why would one rather purchase an interface like Presonus Firepod.?
yea i know the Presonus Firepod is good.. it cost close to 1K right?
hey does anione knows where to buy it and also do it comes with a bundle software. does sinamex does presonus products?
another question that i have is... is a mixer counted as an interface as well?? if a mixer can transmit MIDI signal to a computer why would one rather purchase an interface like Presonus Firepod.?
parablue74
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ouch, do some reading up on drum miking 1st, friend... Does your drumset have midi outputs???
blueprintstudios
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"if a mixer can transmit MIDI signal to a computer why would one rather purchase an interface like Presonus Firepod.?"
he's trying to tell you that midi and drum miking seperate things...
he's trying to tell you that midi and drum miking seperate things...
The-Warlord
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Get a MOTU traveller...4 mice preamps and can be bus powered..great for demo recording...
parablue74
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Sorry!!! I lost you there!! Several firepods together to record drums, each firepod can accomodate 8 mics, so several will be so many inputs. Maximum mics for drums are 16, so 2 firepods can do. But wow, check out your wallet!!!
If you miking drums, you are looking to the real time feel of a drummer, which isn't easy to emulate by drum sampling or midi programming. It is a huge cost for that, since you have to counter in the cost of mics, pro drumset, room treatment etc...
MIDI signal is different from audio signals, they come in bits and bytes, while analog audio is sine waves. You can't record MIDI method using mics or real drums (if you do find a method to do that, do tell me!!! i want to know!!). You most probably need an electronic drumset for that purpose, but then it will be different. Record your MIDI signals via firepod into your PC, then do your quantizations and editing. Do a playback from your PC using your drum module, then rerecord as audio. Best, record track by track, so they seperate into different tracks on your sequencing software, so your can pan and mix seperately as you work your songs out!!
Still, MIDI doesn't totally emulate real drums, it only achieves 70% of the real sound, the remaining involves feel, tonal change as you hit different parts of the drums, off beats dynamics etc, these are only for the real drummer, not for a machine. If you are doing electronic music, you can get away with it, but if it's real live music, you gotta find a studio that records real drums....Cheers!!!
i didn't say aniting bout Midi. I hope u are not referring to me when u said "You can't record MIDI method using mics or real drums (if you do find a method to do that, do tell me!!! i want to know!!)". Imagine an acoustic drum got midi output. 
Well to record the whole band at once u need 3 presonus. Thats why i said several. Yes thats expensive. Thats the best way to record drums. Max mikes are 18 for drums actually. lets say basic setup: one snare(2mic), 3 toms(6mics), 2 crash(2mics), 1 ride(1mic), 1 hats(1mic), 1kick(2mics), 2 overhead mics and lastly (maybe u forgot the importance of ambience mics) 2 ambience mics. Drums when mic-ed so close dont sound real. But dats the only way, u have to mic them close. So how to make them real? Add ambience mics = add distance of the whole kit. Definitely the drums must be in their own room, separated from the rest of the players.
Btw, a cheap way other than using midi that i wont recommended. Use Studio Drums and Battery sampler. thats all. Studio drums sounds real. Variety of velocity, recorded using real popular drums. Its a real drum sound library. It makes your life easy. U can download it..i mean buy it.
But still parablue's way also can make it lah if u have lots of time to spare. rerecord as audio..bla bla..
Well to record the whole band at once u need 3 presonus. Thats why i said several. Yes thats expensive. Thats the best way to record drums. Max mikes are 18 for drums actually. lets say basic setup: one snare(2mic), 3 toms(6mics), 2 crash(2mics), 1 ride(1mic), 1 hats(1mic), 1kick(2mics), 2 overhead mics and lastly (maybe u forgot the importance of ambience mics) 2 ambience mics. Drums when mic-ed so close dont sound real. But dats the only way, u have to mic them close. So how to make them real? Add ambience mics = add distance of the whole kit. Definitely the drums must be in their own room, separated from the rest of the players.
Btw, a cheap way other than using midi that i wont recommended. Use Studio Drums and Battery sampler. thats all. Studio drums sounds real. Variety of velocity, recorded using real popular drums. Its a real drum sound library. It makes your life easy.
U can download it..i mean buy it. But still parablue's way also can make it lah if u have lots of time to spare. rerecord as audio..bla bla..
blueprintstudios
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still seems like presonus firepod daisy chained is the best option for multitrack drum recording. i heard there's a new retail price for the firepod now.
ficiante, 18 mics for the drum is quite extensive. but if you prefer it, then it is good.
how big is your recording room? you have isolation rooms for individual musicians?
you want to do 24 tracks simultaneously? is that your requirement?
blueprintstudios, you are very updated on the pricing man. ha..ha... they lowered the price because there's a newer version that's coming out. got ADAT I/O. :wink: saw it during broadcast asia.
how big is your recording room? you have isolation rooms for individual musicians?
you want to do 24 tracks simultaneously? is that your requirement?
blueprintstudios, you are very updated on the pricing man. ha..ha... they lowered the price because there's a newer version that's coming out. got ADAT I/O. :wink: saw it during broadcast asia.
blueprintstudios
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ficiante : when you got that many mics on your drums, my advice is watch the phase =)
soft : hahah, i'm not that updated, kithsa (soft user) is the presonus siao, told me about it about a month ago, he told me about the new version like 2 months back. but weird thing is after the price dropped to $800SGD i called local dealers and they're still selling at $1K. so i kinda dropped the idea of getting it for now.
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soft : hahah, i'm not that updated, kithsa (soft user) is the presonus siao, told me about it about a month ago, he told me about the new version like 2 months back. but weird thing is after the price dropped to $800SGD i called local dealers and they're still selling at $1K. so i kinda dropped the idea of getting it for now.
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gkinsingapore
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I just recently used a firepod to record drum parts for about 8 songs and it performed well. The setup was Kik, Snare, 4 toms and 2 overheads. The overheads were Samson condensors and they picked up the hats so crisply that for what we were doing there was no need for individual h/hat mic.
We had the band play live in the studio but I only recorded the drums. The next day we did all the overdubs in my spare room using a different interface (focusrite).
For what we needed the firepod performed superbly.
We had the band play live in the studio but I only recorded the drums. The next day we did all the overdubs in my spare room using a different interface (focusrite).
For what we needed the firepod performed superbly.
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