tell me what is wrong with this voice
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Giantballz
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Make sure you guys are not being nice cuz shes a girl i mean she needs an honest opinion. I think ur a rough diamond. With a little training (and a little make up maybe?) hahaha u can make it better. As for songs to cover, haha Ive never seen a chick do these before but yeah i hope you be the 1st.
1.Hey Joe(Hendrix)
2.Dead Or Alive(Bon Jovi)
Hope you didnt take the things i said the wrong way.
1.Hey Joe(Hendrix)
2.Dead Or Alive(Bon Jovi)
Hope you didnt take the things i said the wrong way.
Giantballz
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oh ya u want a gig? go contact Heartrockspore. Enough said! haha
Indigo_blues
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randy: "awwww, it was alright for me girl. A little pitchy here and there but it was awwright for me."
Paula: "you've got a great tone and great potential. I loved it."
Simon: "If you wanna start being an idol, you gotta get that silly looking red sock off your head, seriously."
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Paula: "you've got a great tone and great potential. I loved it."
Simon: "If you wanna start being an idol, you gotta get that silly looking red sock off your head, seriously."
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Hi there,
I quite liked what i heard and honestly, I only didn't really like the song which i knew. Think anyone attempting "You're Beautiful" is really subject to lots of erm... should i say framing misconceptions cos there's so much expectations whenever someone does that song. But i felt you tried to make it your own song, so i think its a fairly good attempt. Could try it at a higher pitch though.
As for how to get gigs, its really quite simple. This is what one of my friend's bands did:
They recorded a demo cd (which you kinda already have) just like about 5 songs of what they can do and went around all the pubs in singapore with namecards and their cds. They did get their gigs and if i'm not wrong are under the management of wala's now. So its really not difficult to get a gig if you really want to. Oh. And no. There's no need to get drunk!
Btw, I really liked your voice as it has more of an alternative feel to it and i really like those rather than the Celine Dion types. Listen to this not so famous singer-songwriter called Sia. She's really excellent and I think your voice really could be like hers. She's really good. Good luck with the gigs!
Kenneth
I quite liked what i heard and honestly, I only didn't really like the song which i knew. Think anyone attempting "You're Beautiful" is really subject to lots of erm... should i say framing misconceptions cos there's so much expectations whenever someone does that song. But i felt you tried to make it your own song, so i think its a fairly good attempt. Could try it at a higher pitch though.
As for how to get gigs, its really quite simple. This is what one of my friend's bands did:
They recorded a demo cd (which you kinda already have) just like about 5 songs of what they can do and went around all the pubs in singapore with namecards and their cds. They did get their gigs and if i'm not wrong are under the management of wala's now. So its really not difficult to get a gig if you really want to. Oh. And no. There's no need to get drunk!
Btw, I really liked your voice as it has more of an alternative feel to it and i really like those rather than the Celine Dion types. Listen to this not so famous singer-songwriter called Sia. She's really excellent and I think your voice really could be like hers. She's really good. Good luck with the gigs!
Kenneth
djanggo
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i like your guitar playing rather than your singing.For your style of singing and how you project your voice is only suitable for certain songs but not versatile enough to do top 40s covers at pubs.Need to learn pitching and your diction.I prefer powerful voice with weight and high pitching.....not typical falsetto....its just my view.If it is easy to sing than anyone can be a vocalist.For example,try to compare our singapore idol and american idol.....what do you think?we still have a lot to learn from them....the technique....
djanggo
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well i dont kiss ass when giving opinion.Celine Dion is a good singer,a diva...not everybody can sing like her or be able to sing all her songs.Whitney Houston,Mariah Carey.....those are real singers....You can't compare them with...death metal,alternative,rap..hip hop...etc singers....
djjango
oh gee. hey. thanks for not kissing my ass.
to sing like those kids on american idol, u need to belt. ever heard a belter on acoustics?
that, and they probably had $150/hour singing lessons. yeah, people say you don't need to learn but i think you have to. if u need to practice and learn guitar techniques etc, u definitely need to learn vocal techniques.
i agree that tone is not everything.
oh gee. hey. thanks for not kissing my ass.
to sing like those kids on american idol, u need to belt. ever heard a belter on acoustics?
that, and they probably had $150/hour singing lessons. yeah, people say you don't need to learn but i think you have to. if u need to practice and learn guitar techniques etc, u definitely need to learn vocal techniques.
i agree that tone is not everything.
blueprintstudios
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lombardo - haha well, if she demands maximum wage she's not good enough for that yet. there's always a pay raise from a minimum wage. at least concentrate on getting experience and gettin the job first
getting the exposure
yeap, its about getting out there and getting a feel of what its actually like doing the job. not about the money.
anyway. all those so called-vocalists on soft...post your sound clips! haha. even though my recording quality is damn bad, and the guitar is damn fuzzy on all the songs, just put it up. there's like, what, 7 pages full of people saying they sing on that thread "vocalists, show of hands"
post your singing!
you really learn stuff. well at least a little.
yeap, its about getting out there and getting a feel of what its actually like doing the job. not about the money.
anyway. all those so called-vocalists on soft...post your sound clips! haha. even though my recording quality is damn bad, and the guitar is damn fuzzy on all the songs, just put it up. there's like, what, 7 pages full of people saying they sing on that thread "vocalists, show of hands"
post your singing!
you really learn stuff. well at least a little.
Giantballz
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RazrAsh said:
Gee a street busker at weelock place told me that too. Hrmm....maybe we could give it a try.
gkinsingapore
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The reason pubs deal with a single agent is because they dont want the hassle of being approached by everyone asking for a gig. The agents job is to provide bands/entertainers of the standard required by the pub with a repetoire that the customers of the pub will enjoy, making them stay longer and run up a bigger bar bill. Sometimes going direct to the management can piss them off (yet another person intruding on thier busy day asking to play) and if it doesnt then it can piss the agent off who usually books the pub.
To play your kind of music in the pubs mentioned here I would suggest going through an agent but before you are ready for that consider the following:
1. Hook up with another acoustic guitar player and singer. A thicker guitar sound (the sound of 2 guitars) and someone that you can swap harmonies with will make you sound A LOT better
2. If you dont know how to sing harmonies...learn.
3. Dont worry too much about your pitching and diction. Practice makes perfect and you have quite a tuneful voice already.
4. When you sing, stand up and project your voice from right down inside your abdomin/diaphragm. I have played in a lot of cover gigs in sg and overseas, the PA system is never as good as it should be and it's always difficult to get good monitoring. If you dont project your voice, singing loud and confidently, you will have trouble being heard in a mix. This can lead to pitch problems as well as giving the engineer the headache of trying to turn your mic up loud increasing the chance of feedback.
5. When you are ready, with a setlist of about 40 polished songs, you need a decent demo recording. The one you have posted isnt good enough. It's hard to hear you properly and there is a lot of noise in it (air con/computer fan?) Your demo will be your calling card so it has to be as good as you can afford. I suspect that the method you recorded your songs with this time contributed to the odd pitch problem. I listened to some of the songs a few times and even then was reluctant to comment on the qualities in your voice because I didnt really think I'd heard it properly.
6. Hang out at places like Wala/Balaclava/Muddys, listen to the kind of songs they are playing and take note of what the audience enjoys and waht they dont. You are playing for the customers, not yourself, a happy customer is one that comes back there again and spends hard earned cash on drinks. A rich pub owner is a happy pub owner and if you can contribute to that then you will neve rbe short of places to play!
You have a nice voice and are to be admired for having the drive and determination to put yourself out on the net for comment and criticism. That takes...ahem...big balls (pardon the expression but I'm sure you know what I mean) and having the guts to do it means you are already a good deal along the way to being successful..no guts, no glory!
When you are ready, contact an agent such as Toni Goh http://www.greenroomsuite.com/ Hire a rehearsal studio and have him drop by to audition you. Dont do this before you are 110% ready though!
As for songs and singers to listen to I would recommend that you check out Bic Runga who sings and plays acoustic guitar, a lot like you (except original songs of course). Sheryl Crow always goes down well with the customers. Also there is a great CD where female australian artists have covered the songs of Neil and Tim Finn (Crowded House/ Split Enz) called 'She will have her way';
http://www.hmv.com.au/product/rockpop.asp?sku=996258
Well worth checking out.
Good luck and don't give up!
To play your kind of music in the pubs mentioned here I would suggest going through an agent but before you are ready for that consider the following:
1. Hook up with another acoustic guitar player and singer. A thicker guitar sound (the sound of 2 guitars) and someone that you can swap harmonies with will make you sound A LOT better
2. If you dont know how to sing harmonies...learn.
3. Dont worry too much about your pitching and diction. Practice makes perfect and you have quite a tuneful voice already.
4. When you sing, stand up and project your voice from right down inside your abdomin/diaphragm. I have played in a lot of cover gigs in sg and overseas, the PA system is never as good as it should be and it's always difficult to get good monitoring. If you dont project your voice, singing loud and confidently, you will have trouble being heard in a mix. This can lead to pitch problems as well as giving the engineer the headache of trying to turn your mic up loud increasing the chance of feedback.
5. When you are ready, with a setlist of about 40 polished songs, you need a decent demo recording. The one you have posted isnt good enough. It's hard to hear you properly and there is a lot of noise in it (air con/computer fan?) Your demo will be your calling card so it has to be as good as you can afford. I suspect that the method you recorded your songs with this time contributed to the odd pitch problem. I listened to some of the songs a few times and even then was reluctant to comment on the qualities in your voice because I didnt really think I'd heard it properly.
6. Hang out at places like Wala/Balaclava/Muddys, listen to the kind of songs they are playing and take note of what the audience enjoys and waht they dont. You are playing for the customers, not yourself, a happy customer is one that comes back there again and spends hard earned cash on drinks. A rich pub owner is a happy pub owner and if you can contribute to that then you will neve rbe short of places to play!
You have a nice voice and are to be admired for having the drive and determination to put yourself out on the net for comment and criticism. That takes...ahem...big balls (pardon the expression but I'm sure you know what I mean) and having the guts to do it means you are already a good deal along the way to being successful..no guts, no glory!
When you are ready, contact an agent such as Toni Goh http://www.greenroomsuite.com/ Hire a rehearsal studio and have him drop by to audition you. Dont do this before you are 110% ready though!
As for songs and singers to listen to I would recommend that you check out Bic Runga who sings and plays acoustic guitar, a lot like you (except original songs of course). Sheryl Crow always goes down well with the customers. Also there is a great CD where female australian artists have covered the songs of Neil and Tim Finn (Crowded House/ Split Enz) called 'She will have her way';
http://www.hmv.com.au/product/rockpop.asp?sku=996258
Well worth checking out.
Good luck and don't give up!
