Telecaster compared to les paul.

[naviros]

Probably the neck is the most important factor for a newbie right now... It determines how comfortably you play as you learn.

I started out with an Ibanez RG (still on an RG), thin neck, nice to play, not exactly your grabbing sorta neck (too thin) to play bar chords or wat not, but still playable. Really depends on what you're comfortable with. Body wise, mostly for looks and sound, but since you aren't even sure of anything yet, get something cheap and comfortable, and maybe you'll find your dream guitar soon after... (either that or try every guitar at swee lee, blackwood, davis, and more, then come back tell us which you like best, or rather, just get the one that feels right, and don't look back)

 

[matt_95]

This one ....

...played it yesterday :mrgreen: will make LP's cry!!

it makes me cry, so nice.....

 

[adly]

the kotzen tele just makes my jaw drop man...

 

[superpotato_30]

Speaking of lespauls.. Heres a 5A quilt top 1968 custom

 

[gsonique]

Rhizo ...its MIJ ..the price is way cool!

 

[IbanezFreak]

waa!! ehhh bro,whats your budget?

if you want a good tele, (i prefer teles but i own an ibanez ), try the highway 1 telecaster?

 

[mp3sucker]

Hmm.. from my opinion, you have to check the neck make sure its comfortable (if you like to shred, neck are really important), & your playing style. Because LP neck a bit chunky than others.

And the action too, LP normally have high action setting, would be quite difficult to shred if you are on 14th fret onwards. Fast picking tend to get stuck.

For sound wise... LP is more on big/fat sound.

For looks, both have amazing looks & style.

Hope this helps.

 

[Rhizopus]

Rhizo ...its MIJ ..the price is way cool!

hahahaha must resist....
besides, no more gold finish hardware guitar for me. It only look good for the honeymoon period :mrgreen:

 

[Fourfingers]

Well try out both and listen to which one suits your taste better. Try not to think so much about the brand and think more about the tone or sound. And yea, a good set up and some equalization can help you get the tone you want. One thing though, I find that Epiphone pickups aren't that great. This is my personal experience with a friend's epiphone les paul. Maybe a change of pickups would make the les paul sound better

 

[dtrulez38]

They sound different generally. You shouldn't compare them that way ("Apples and oranges, which one is better?").

Apple! coz they say an apple a day keeps the doctors away. but no one says bout orange. :lol:


anywayz, it's bout tone n feel. warm or twang. buy either one, play it, dun like then sell, like then keep. hurhur...

 

[subversion]

i used to think that if one shreds, thin necks are the way to go. after many guitars later, it's all about ability; if you can shred, you can shred with any neck profiles. just that some neck profiles are more favourable (to you) than others.

like Kotzen, i like my tele bridge to be humbucking

 

[Elias]

Doh. I sold mine on ebay for a mere US$399!!!! And it's a '73 and in better condition!!! *slaps forehead*

The original 72 deluxes are prized for their oversized Seth Lover designed "Wide Range" pickups which were made from Cunife magnets. There are no replacement aftermarket pickups on the market that sound anything like this. The reissues don't sport these anymore and thus sound considerably different - but if you want a similar tone do some searches and replace some caps within the reissue and it'll get you a ballpark approximation of the original.

Or, eventually save up and buy them on eBay for about 450 to 500+USD a pop

http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Fender-Tel...ryZ22670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-Fender-...ryZ22670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[jony]

I rock out fine with my Tele... That's a Fast Track T.

The big difference between a Tele and a LP is the scale length. I used to think it made little difference. Now having owned both, I realise the Tele is articulate in its own way that you may or may not prefer.

When it comes to Electric Guitars, one is never enough

 

[Danelectrico]

Elias, i know - those pickups used to be between 300 - 400 USD just a year or 2 ago...now the prices have gone through the roof at 500+ being the norm.

 

[Elias]

OT: Sheesh...actually I sold mine a month or 2 ago. I couldn't find similar listings/completed listings on ebay for a price guidance. It became pretty rare, even on ebay. And the last one I saw went for US$399, so I follow suit! *lol* Oh well...

Back to topic, even though the original seth lover wide range pickups were highly sought-after, I realised from my personal experience that it's not as awe-inspiring on the 72' custom teles configuration (that is, a single coil bridge and the seth-lover humbucker neck). Even though I could blend it in the middle position and could get a somewhat, distinctive tone, it's not really useful to me as a neck pickup on its own. I reckon it'd sound better in the Deluxe configuration (2 seth lover humbuckers) instead? Any comments?

 

[Rhizopus]

Back to topic, even though the original seth lover wide range pickups were highly sought-after, I realised from my personal experience that it's not as awe-inspiring on the 72' custom teles configuration (that is, a single coil bridge and the seth-lover humbucker neck). Even though I could blend it in the middle position and could get a somewhat, distinctive tone, it's not really useful to me as a neck pickup on its own. I reckon it'd sound better in the Deluxe configuration (2 seth lover humbuckers) instead? Any comments?

Spot on.

People paying high $$$ for those kind of rare items are usually for collecting purpose, not for practical purpose, i.e. making music.

 

[Danelectrico]

Owning a 73 deluxe, I have to say I really like the tone of it - individual and blended. It is however very raw rock n roll tone - it's personal preference whether you'd choose that over a regular tele.

I've never played an original 72 era Custom tele so i have no idea how the pickups blend. What didn't you like about it? I have a strat with a single coil sized humbucker in the neck and a regular humbucker in the bridge - when i use both pickups and split the bridge coil, it provides some of my favourite rhythm tones. Fat yet with the trebly bite of the single coil.

People buying these pickups collecting rather than making music? Not necessarily. Sonic Youth have outfitted almost all their guitars (yes, including the Jazzmasters) with these same pickups because they like them best and it suits their needs - and I think with 14 albums under their belt you could say Sonic Youth aren't short on the music making qualifications.

 

[Elias]

I was somewhat a little 'undermined' when I first heard the seth lover pickup after claims of it being 'like a Gibson PAF humbucker but with more clarity'. To be fair, maybe my only experience with the seth lover wide range pickup comes in the form of a sole neck pickup, which by its native position, lacks the bite/clarity of bridge pickups. Perhaps I was expecting a little too much but I must say that it does have a unique sound to it...somewhat a nice raw gritty feel to it when I blend it with the bridge single coil. Having said that, I guess I would appreciate it in it fuller glory if I'd had a chance to try it in its bridge pickup configuration. I must also admit, it may well be due to the sum of all the parts put together since I just dumped it into my CIJ 72' reissue custom tele :mrgreen:

 

[Rhizopus]

People buying these pickups collecting rather than making music?
Not necessarily. Sonic Youth have outfitted almost all their guitars (yes, including the Jazzmasters) with these same pickups because they like them best and it suits their needs - and I think with 14 albums under their belt you could say Sonic Youth aren't short on the music making qualifications.

you have skipped the word USUALLY from my original statement, sir. And the word "usually" doesn't mean "always". So your Sonic Youth example is rather out of place.

And by giving example of Sonic Youth, doesn't imply that everyone who's buying that pickup is making music.

 

[Danelectrico]

Rhizopus, my post was just to highlight a practical example of the people that DO buy expensive vintage pickups for the purpose of making music. It had nothing to do with refuting your sentence. Certainly there will be some who collect them, others who install them to hear how they sound, others to replace broken or non-working originals since there are no perfect aftermarket substitutes and others who make music with them. Possibly others who use them as household decorations, who knows.

Let's not read too deep into "usually" or "always" or "sometimes", yeah? I'm sure our readers know the difference, and in any case none of us have or claim to have statistics or figures so it's all speculation anyway. Everything here in all this talk shop is just to share opinions or examples, and I'm sure we don't have to qualify each one with that caveat to get our point across.