Steinway & Sons 1955 Concert Grand Piano going at 1.6k?!
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bongman
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Item Title - STEINWAY GERMANY C 7'6" GRAND PIANO
this is what ebay sent me, read about it !!!
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this is what ebay sent me, read about it !!!
The following is a notice from eBay Trust & Safety regarding:
Item Number - 4709285334
Item Title - STEINWAY GERMANY C 7'6" GRAND PIANO
Our records show that you were a bidder on this item. We recently removed this listing and have suspended the seller's trading privileges. Due to privacy concerns we will not be able to share further details related to this seller.
If someone claiming to be the seller asks you to complete a transaction outside of eBay, we strongly recommend that you ignore the request. Transactions for items listed on eBay that are completed outside of the eBay marketplace are not covered by the Buyer Protection services offered by eBay and can be highly indicative of fraud.
If you have not sent payment to the seller, we urge you to not proceed with the transaction.
If you have already paid, you may wish to pursue recouping your funds. Some steps you might take include:
1. Ask the seller for a refund
2. If you paid by check, ask your bank to stop payment
3. If you paid by credit card, contact your credit card company's security department
4. If you have made a payment by money order or wire transfer, you may contact that company for further information at 1-800-325-6000 (Western Union), or at 1-800-926-9400 (Money Gram)
5. If you paid with PayPal, review the Buyer Complaint Process at:
/csg/p?www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/protections-buyer-outside
6. Review eligibility requirements for eBay's standard purchase protection program at:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/isgw-fraud-claim-requirements.html
There are many tips on how to protect yourself with any Internet transaction in the eBay Security Center located at:
http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter
Our goal is to ensure that your eBay experience is safe so that you can buy confidently. It is rare that something goes wrong with a transaction on eBay, but we're here to help you protect yourself in the event it does. If you have any questions, please reply directly to this email.
Regards,
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
eBay Inc
iansoh
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for those who're interested, http://www.pianomart.com/SpamScam.aspx
exactly the same way the chap tried to scam.
exactly the same way the chap tried to scam.
DoubleBlade
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this is wad i got from the website iansoh posted....
Another scam that we have seen on PianoMart.com is one that involves the use of fake ads. The scammer will copy an existing ad directly from another website. He will remove the real contact information, insert his own email address and represent himself as the owner. Sometimes these scams are easy to spot because the scammer will ask an incredibly low price for a very high quality piano. This insures that their ads will attract alot of attention and interest. The scammer will attempt to convince you to pay, in advance, part of the purchase price or the shipping fee and then will allow you to pay the balance when the piano is delivered to you. Sounds fair, right? Of course, since they don't really own the piano, it will never arrive and you've lost your downpayment. To protect yourself from this scam, follow these precautions:
if the asking price of the piano sounds too good to be true, BEWARE!
tell the seller that you will need to send a piano technician to inspect the piano before you send any money. You can then hire a local piano technician to inspect and evaluate the piano for you. They can then confirm the existence of the piano and tell you what condition it is in.
ask the seller to send you more photos of the piano. If they actually own the piano, this should not be a problem.
insist on getting a phone number and call them and ask alot of questions about the piano. A legitimate piano seller will be happy to speak with you on the phone.
use an escrow service to handle the transaction. The escrow service will hold the money until you receive the piano and only then will they release the money to the seller. The popularity of Internet shopping has given birth to many phony escrow services, so use caution when choosing an escrow service. To facilitate a safe and successful transaction, we now offer our own "in house" PianoMart.com Escrow Service at no additional charge.
i think Singapore has a lack of piano technicians around and although u see tons of them on the classified ads , it's still not enough to cover the entire island...
this gives rise to scammers who choose to target pianos as their bait due to the lack of knowledge we ordinary people have on pianos.we tend to think that as long as a piano can produce sounds , it is in acceptable condition....
Another scam that we have seen on PianoMart.com is one that involves the use of fake ads. The scammer will copy an existing ad directly from another website. He will remove the real contact information, insert his own email address and represent himself as the owner. Sometimes these scams are easy to spot because the scammer will ask an incredibly low price for a very high quality piano. This insures that their ads will attract alot of attention and interest. The scammer will attempt to convince you to pay, in advance, part of the purchase price or the shipping fee and then will allow you to pay the balance when the piano is delivered to you. Sounds fair, right? Of course, since they don't really own the piano, it will never arrive and you've lost your downpayment. To protect yourself from this scam, follow these precautions:
if the asking price of the piano sounds too good to be true, BEWARE!
tell the seller that you will need to send a piano technician to inspect the piano before you send any money. You can then hire a local piano technician to inspect and evaluate the piano for you. They can then confirm the existence of the piano and tell you what condition it is in.
ask the seller to send you more photos of the piano. If they actually own the piano, this should not be a problem.
insist on getting a phone number and call them and ask alot of questions about the piano. A legitimate piano seller will be happy to speak with you on the phone.
use an escrow service to handle the transaction. The escrow service will hold the money until you receive the piano and only then will they release the money to the seller. The popularity of Internet shopping has given birth to many phony escrow services, so use caution when choosing an escrow service. To facilitate a safe and successful transaction, we now offer our own "in house" PianoMart.com Escrow Service at no additional charge.
i think Singapore has a lack of piano technicians around and although u see tons of them on the classified ads , it's still not enough to cover the entire island...
this gives rise to scammers who choose to target pianos as their bait due to the lack of knowledge we ordinary people have on pianos.we tend to think that as long as a piano can produce sounds , it is in acceptable condition....
DoubleBlade
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iansoh said:
mind sharing wif us ur experience?
duskalways
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DoubleBlade said:
there are many kinds of scam in the net. must be careful. i have a friend who "fell" for a loan scam and forwarded money to process the loan. of course she never got her money back!
iansoh
Moderator
DoubleBlade said:
well, i just asked a straightforward question in one message to him. "anyway, what's the condition of this piano? is it rotting away in some funny corner or what?" and then in another message i sent about 5 min later "can i see the piano before i place a bid?"
he chose to answer only the second one, to which he said "bid first and see piano later".
i thought something was amiss there already. not a serious seller.
DoubleBlade
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well u could bid first but dun do any form of transactions first until u have seen and tried out the piano....
sounds kinda fishy to me thou...
sounds kinda fishy to me thou...
