speech level singing

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anyone had speech level singing training? what is the difference between that and normal vocal training? is it better by a lot or only slight difference?
 
anyone had speech level singing training? what is the difference between that and normal vocal training? is it better by a lot or only slight difference?

Oh yeah we've got alot of SLS fans and goers here. Gotta wait for them to pop over to floor you with the technique, or try checking the other threads; they're there..

I'm not a fan of SLS; I've tried it, went to a conference of it, noticed the hype and gimmick, and I don't think it's a sufficient technique for any kind of professional singing. Like I said, it depends on what you want to gain from learning how to sing. It's one of those "good to know, useful technique" but not for constant training.

I just find it unfortunate that it's so popular in Singapore when its trainees just listen to whatever the coach impresses them with without knowing the backdoors of its technique or good vocal singing requirements and mechanics (esp at that price! My god, you could be classically-trained with for an hour at that price, and that's already learning the best foundation for vocals!).


one more thing is that i found a SLS coach who charges $50 per half hour. is it worth it? is the duration too short?

Well er.. the duration -is- short for that amount of money but then again SLS doesn't require much time to learn its general techniques. It's a simple method, and fastest way to generally sounding better. It depends on what kinda training you want I suppose, if you want an all-round intensive vocal lesson, then yes, the duration is too short; SLS won't cover everything you need to know. You could try going for 1-2 lessons to get the idea first, and decide after that whether you want to carry on or not?

Me personally.... I wouldn't bust that much money though, that's just ridiculous.. I don't believe learning any instrument and being nurtured well into it takes just a few, casual training, so I'd probably be too distracted by how much each ticking second is costing and then worrying about how to maintain the training with that bomb of a fee. There are no shortcuts to learning, and there definitely isn't a simple way to doing anything.
 
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Here is one of the SLS fans :)

I've taken one SLS lesson - 1 hour for $150. What I learnt in that lesson made a huge difference to the sound of my voice. The advantages, like sage said, are that it's simple and it works. There's a lot of methods out there that are not simple and do not work :) And you can waste a lot of money on them before you realize they don't work.

I would say that $150 per hour on something that works is better value than $50 per hour on something that doesn't work.

FYI there are 2 SLS teachers in singapore - one charges $75 for half hour, the other $50 for half hour. The more expensive one is more experienced.
 
i personally think its overpriced. its a lot of marketing involved. this whole grammy singer technique etc. when i went for it i felt like i was talking to a salesman. he was asking me to go to him everyday for an hour for 2 weeks. thats $150x14 bucks!! com'on...thats a bit too much huh...everyone i spoke to said thats a scam

and their websites makes it sound miraculous, like they have the key to release your locked up 6 octaves but truth is u still need the hard work. no short cut. like sage said for that price u can get classical training. but classical teachers are not so high profile so not many ppl know about them. a lot of sls stuff are based on old school stuff. they r just re-packaging them.

thats just my personal view. i believe sls does work but its just over priced...and its not that much superior to other vocal techniques. but if i had too much money then i would go for it..at least i know it will work. on the other hand the technique may be sound but the teacher need to know what to prescribe, i think the most important thing is for them to identify the singers problem...only then can they tailor the exercises to help them. the sls teachers in sg are only level 1's (level 5 is highest)..so i dunno how accurate they are, esp for those of us who really need help.
 
I agree that talking to Daniel (the $150/hour teacher) is like talking to a salesman. But for me there's only one thing that matters - does the method work? And it does.

If a classical trainer or another pop trainer were to come to me with the same evidence of success as SLS gives, then I would have taken their lessons too. It's all a question of what works, not about whether there's marketing involved, or whether the ideas are re-packaged from somewhere else.
 
dir, it depends. a lot of people have been conned before so better do your research first. better to engage those whom others trust.
 
150$ is seriously worth it man!, Daniel has coached me for about a month or so, i've improved alot since! =)
 
i personally think its overpriced. its a lot of marketing involved. this whole grammy singer technique etc. when i went for it i felt like i was talking to a salesman. he was asking me to go to him everyday for an hour for 2 weeks. thats $150x14 bucks!! com'on...thats a bit too much huh...everyone i spoke to said thats a scam

and their websites makes it sound miraculous, like they have the key to release your locked up 6 octaves but truth is u still need the hard work. no short cut. like sage said for that price u can get classical training. but classical teachers are not so high profile so not many ppl know about them. a lot of sls stuff are based on old school stuff. they r just re-packaging them.

thats just my personal view. i believe sls does work but its just over priced...and its not that much superior to other vocal techniques. but if i had too much money then i would go for it..at least i know it will work. on the other hand the technique may be sound but the teacher need to know what to prescribe, i think the most important thing is for them to identify the singers problem...only then can they tailor the exercises to help them. the sls teachers in sg are only level 1's (level 5 is highest)..so i dunno how accurate they are, esp for those of us who really need help.

lol, I was planning to go.. U gave very gd advice.. I'm looking for Broadway style of technique, any idea where to find?
 
cloudwind> The best way for that is to look into workshops under theatre, or join a musical needing vocalists.

I'll keep you informed if I see another one coming.
 
So like after a year or more of this SLS and a shitload of cash.. I can go from screaming and growling like a brutal death metaller and also belt the high notes like Steelheart? All without ever getting a sorethroat? hahaha...

Anyone for the sake of everybody who really wants to improve their singing is willing to vouch for the effectiveness of this technique and the awesomeness of the coach/coaches? Those who are walking living proof of this great SLS technique pls come post your singing. Are you really that much better than self trained singers who were never taught anything? Better yet take part in the Vocal Hangout thing with Softies and share.

I'm not demeaning anyone or putting anyone down. I'm trying to help everybody. Is it really worth spending that much cash? If it is than hey great for SLS business I guess. EVeryone gets to be better singers and the coaches get more students. Everybody wins.
 
Waaa... I have no clue what SLS is, at first I thought Sim Lim Square(Rofl). I don't mind paying S$150/hr for SLS lesson if I were a professional singer. But then again, S$150 still a bit steep.
 
Personally, i think SLS is for intermediate or advanced singers, like grace or sage, to further hone their singing. For those who are still amateur, i wouldn't recommend that.

But then again, sometimes people who can't sing for nuts still think they can sing for raisins...
 
Personally, i think SLS is for intermediate or advanced singers, like grace or sage, to further hone their singing. For those who are still amateur, i wouldn't recommend that.

But then again, sometimes people who can't sing for nuts still think they can sing for raisins...

Rofl! William Hung. She bangs she bangs!
 
Personally, i think SLS is for intermediate or advanced singers, like grace or sage, to further hone their singing. For those who are still amateur, i wouldn't recommend that.

I think it's better for beginner actually .. the process for beginner is like this:

1. Learn SLS
2. Sing!

The process for an experienced singer is

1. Unlearn bad singing habits
2. Learn SLS
3. Sing!

The beginner has one less step to go through :P
 
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Personally, i think SLS is for intermediate or advanced singers, like grace or sage, to further hone their singing. For those who are still amateur, i wouldn't recommend that.

But then again, sometimes people who can't sing for nuts still think they can sing for raisins...

haha, not true actually, i feel that any one regardless of whether they're amateur or not can give it a try if possible..
i know one girl whom i met at Dan's studio. She was an amateur singer, Daniel trained her from scratch and today she is in a performing arts school.

He trains clients as young as 6 years old and as old as 62 yrs!
 
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