Sound Module

we are using a pc88 which is only slightly better.. heh..its been repaired like 3 times and refuses to die..

my church hasn't found the need the upgrade our keyboards in a loooooong time.. heh. ah well.
 
Er hmm, I'm asking Quasar! But anyway, yes, I would like to know yours too, indigo. PC88 isn't all too bad.

Upgrading keyboards in church is one of the lowest priority in the budget. As long as sound comes out, nobody is going to care too much. We should just be content! :D
 
Cheez said:
And what digital piano is your church using?
Hahaha totally embarassed to say that I also don't know, although i'm SURE that this one is a yamaha. 178% sure :oops:

But I'm quite satisfied with the piano sounds that we get from it, so that's why I was saying I was not interested in piano sounds.

The only doubt is how good it will be when used as a controller - as mentioned, the 01W/FD has sticky keys and is sometimes failing to send audio through the L/Mono jack, so the best way is to use it as a module.

Hmm I foresee a lot of fun experimentation in the next few weeks, while trying to find out how to get the best out of the korg! Managed to get the authorization from the worship pastor to bring the korg home to try it out for a few days!

Expect to see more questions from me :)

By the way, it is a nice surprise to see so many christian musicians on this forum! It appears like most of the senior members here play in a worship team!
 
Actually, it's the model number of the digital piano that will be helpful. Different models has different sounds and quality. Or let me re-phrase it - does the digital piano have e-piano, hammond and strings sounds that you feel is adequate?
 
Cheez said:
Actually, it's the model number of the digital piano that will be helpful.
Yeah I know you were looking for the model number but I never cared in the past. I've asked someone in chuch to look it up for me. Will update you later.

Cheez said:
does the digital piano have e-piano, hammond and strings sounds that you feel is adequate?
Only the e-piano and the piano sounds are adequate.

The strings sound fake and are too sharp for use as pads, even in multi mode. I've tried equalizing it to no avail.

I guess the best lesson I've learnt from here is to *know* your instrument inside out before deciding to give up on it :D
 
Cheez said:
Actually, it's the model number of the digital piano that will be helpful.
OK got all the info:

Piano:
Yamaha P200 (great pianos & e-piano)

Synth:
Korg 01W/FD with lots of sticky keys

So as I had said, I hope to use the P200 as a controller for the 01W.
 
Quasar said:
OK got all the info:
Piano:
Yamaha P200 (great pianos & e-piano)
Synth:
Korg 01W/FD with lots of sticky keys
So as I had said, I hope to use the P200 as a controller for the 01W.
the Yamaha P200 isn't it a high-end digital piano? you can easily get a MIDI controller eg. M-audio radium61 to solve the sticky ket problem for the Korg 01w.
 
newbie100 said:
the Yamaha P200 isn't it a high-end digital piano?

Yep it is... I did some research on it after getting the model from my friend in churhc.

I think my 'newbieness' has been totally exposed for all to see :D
 
heh.. i have a P200 at home and i love it to death.. :) Its piano sound to me is still one of the best around...

using it as a simple midi controller is not a problem except for its weighted keys... u can even split the keys into 2 channels to control 2 midi channels if u want.. think its more than sufficient for most stuff u want to play in church....

btw i saw a roland JD990 on luther going for $600..
 
Indigo_blues said:
btw i saw a roland JD990 on luther going for $600..
Actually that's the reason I included JD990 in my list :D

I feel it's super overpriced though. I've seen it on ebay for less than S$300 inclusive of shipping
 
We'll, you've got yourself a good digital piano. Unlike Indigo, I don't like Yamaha piano sound. But in a church setting, the bright tone is quite helpful to cut through the mix especially since we usually play in a heavily echoey hall (bright sounds helps to give dinstinction).

So, you are set for piano and e-piano. You've also got organ which is some form of B3 although you won't be able to change the tone like having draw bars etc. And of course, playing hammond on weighted keys will be a challenge. But nevertheless, you've already got the bread-and-butter sounds.

The only shortcoming of the P200 is the balance of volume when you layer sounds. You probably already know and experienced this. When you play with the volume control in dual mode, the volume fades from one sound to the other. I don't like that. Sometimes, we don't want the volume of one instrument to fade off - we want it to remain at the same volume while the instrument no.2 crescendo to louder than instrument no. 1. This is not possible for the P200. When you move the volume pass the middle line, instrument 1 starts to fade off. The solution to this is, of course, a sound module. Then control the sound module's volume via an expression pedal.

I really wouldn't recommend anything too costly. Any second hand Roland modules will suffice your needs. JD990 is fine. If your church has the budget and the leadership agrees with upgrading, in the situation where there is only one keyboardist, I would suggest selling off everything (the Yahama and Korg). Then get an RD700SX - no need for any external modules. This is the best keyboard for live situations and gives you a lot of live control as the only keyboardist. Assigning zones and splitting the keyboard is very important for a 1-keyboardist situation.

Playing in church is very different from performing live. Hence the needs will be different. You will not need to have ultra-realistic sounds; lead instruments are not very important; in fact, the playing styles are vastly different. Some people may think it makes no diffference, but the skills-set needed to play in church is very different from live performance. The sounds and equipment needed are therefore, also quite different. The entire purpose is different. You can be an excellent live performer, but a terrible player in church. When playing in church, the keyboardist is aware of multiple things at the same time - other players, the worship leader, the people singing, the backup choir, the acoustics of the place (which is usually bad), and improvise according to different situations - all these things go on at the same time. I don't want to turn this thread into a church-keyboardist thread - but I'm happy to discuss things like this if you want to pm me - or start another thread so others can join in.
 
Quasar said:
Indigo_blues said:
btw i saw a roland JD990 on luther going for $600..
Actually that's the reason I included JD990 in my list :D
I feel it's super overpriced though. I've seen it on ebay for less than S$300 inclusive of shipping
S$300 inclusive of shipping for JD990 is a steal deal! $600 for it is like 1/3 or 1/4 of the retail price 10 years ago.
 
I agree, $600 is over-priced. Slightly more and you should be able to get a second-hand JV1080. I sold my JV1080 about 4 years ago for around $1000 with 4 expansion cards included. These things depreciate very fast.
 
Well, they may still be overpriced! I saw one on Ebay - 118USD. That sounds more reasonable. The other one on Ebay is 275 USD - still cheaper than the quote from prepal.
 
soft synth rules

soft synth rules!

everybody is giving up their hardware,
so the price is like going down the drain.
 
Re: soft synth rules

bongman said:
soft synth rules!

everybody is giving up their hardware,
so the price is like going down the drain.

The hardware market is just fine, mate. I would even go so far as to say there are more hardware synths and hardware synth manufacturers today then there were 20 years ago.

Soft synths may rule the bedrooms, but they don't rule the stage or the Billboard Top 100.

There is room for soft and hard in all aspects and at all levels of music production and performance. They are not mutually exclusive.
 
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