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jeremyrozario

jeremyrozario

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i noe there was an old topic on it, but i need some input, im doing a damn project on it

anw wad are ur views on the govt's ban on smoking in public places eg pubs, restaurants, bus stops, coffee shops...

mine is its ok to ban at clubs and restaurants, but not coffeeshops and bus stops
 
though I don't smoke. I feel that the ban should not include clubs & coffeeshops.

For one, smoking is an intergra part of the people going to pubs & club. To ban it is simply saying to the owners of these place to pack up you bags and close shop.

For coffeeshops, working class smokers normally eat in a coffeeshop anyway. So it's like SOP for a smoker to enjoy a puff immediately after meal and relax himself from the day's work. So if you have to move to a nearby patch to light up, it sort of deprive the smoker of some relaxation (even in a coffeshop setting). But smokers must be considerate to non-smokers sitting in close proximity, not to smoke down-wind of the others. If smokers are inconsiderate, then these people should be totally banned from smoking.

For resturants, there is already a system in place for smoking and non-smoking sections, which I think the cover is enough. Those without smoking section do not allow smoking within the premises, so smokers have to do it outdoors.

For bus-stops if the govt decide to ban, I'd be in support. But there should be a bin or area like 5-10m away for smokers, like a yellow box in the army camps. This is because you are in very close proximity with other people. So down wind or not, the smoke will definately offend someone's air space. Even I haven't taken bus for a long time. I remember often breathing someone's second hand smoke at a bus stop.
 
I share most of your views Mikemann. But being a smoker myself *Ahem* Bus stops, like coffeeshops should not be banned. Reason being, Chronic smokers CANNOT do nothing while waiting. It gets them all jittery perhaps. For me, i just occupy myself my a song my head, having lost my goddamn Creative Muvo².

I seriously agree with the down-wind thing you mentioned. And this should apply everywhere. I'd hate my non-smoker friend to breathe excessive fumes within close proximity (although its a pub). But point blank fumes are strong!

Trouble with banning things by law: It is an extreme measure, and can never satisfy all parties la. Smokers lose, because human beings do not need to smoke to live. Case closed, govt win again.
 
Heehee... the bus-stop thing is a bit sticky.

Let me paint a senerio. When it's raining heavily. The bus stop is packed, people squeezing in one small space. SURE have not ONE but a NUMBER of jokers puffing away within the stop. I remember that in this situation, almost all the time non smokers like myself will suffer the continuious blasts of used smoke. (Often will curse silently, wonder how many other feels the same way)

On hindsight, proposing a smoking corner at bus stops will incurr cost to the govt (building it, maintaining and daily cleanup). So I think it's not that plausible either.

If only humans are more considerate.
 
As what mike said, what if it's raining? To be far from the non-smokers it will probably be near the edge of the shelter, and it's going to be wet there. And who the heck will stand in a yellow box and smoke, the fella will look stupid. I think a line right down the middle of a bus stop is fine. It will be the non smoker's risk to cross the line. Heh. I don't smoke but I'm not really annoyed by smoke, I just do not like the way it can stink up my clothes.
 
i totally detest smoking. its great to ban. stop teenagers from smoking. den they'll have nowhere else to smoke but at home. :)
 
Why are cigarettes around in the first place? And if the government wants to ban here and there, why don't they just ban the sales of tobacco products in the first place?
 
hmm...
its impossible to totally ban smoking.
the best i think is to ban smoking in indoor places.

hah, reminds me of gods of metal. the whole place was full of smoke.
i dun even need a stick to "smoke".
 
sanXp said:
Why are cigarettes around in the first place? And if the government wants to ban here and there, why don't they just ban the sales of tobacco products in the first place?
Click to expand...

maybe coz it would disrupt the "balance".
no ciggies = less tax income for the gov.
no ciggies = angry ppl = protests?
etc...
 
banning of smoking in pubs and coffeshops in my opinion is ludicrous. beer-drinking and smoking come hand in hand man! it's part of culture.

i totally disagree to banning of smoking in bustops and various places. smokers are already restricted as it is and now you're saying i can't smoke while while waiting for my bus?! well i think if we want to solve the problem of people smoking when the bustop's crowded, i think we should use something called education, instead of outright ban. if proper etiquettue is understood by smokers, there should be no probs. the reason that S'poreans have a reputation of being "ineloquent" is really in the fact that citizens wait for things to be banned instead of being taught. (fine on spitting? pissing in elevator?! we should be taught not to do those things, not be threatened by hefty fines.) no need to promote the culture with fear with a big sign sayin $500 fine.

ps. me not smoker, i just believe in being liberal
 
lol.
proper ettiquette to be taught to smokers. much of them dont know it.
after smoking. they'll just throw the cigarette butt on the ground. and did u read the papers. this woman wrote to the forum complaining about a person smoking at the taxi stand while waiting for a taxi. and she had an infant with her too.

ettiquette?
dont see that in most of the smokers lah.
 
well, i say the smoker himself has to be responsible. If it's a packed area of course, be considerate and restrain himself from smoking.

i, as a non smoker, sometimes feel really fucked up when i'm waiting for the bus and this joker smokes right next to me and the bus-stop is damn packed. (Peak hours). I would prefer if he would move away from the crowd or other, all smokers move away and non smokers wont be affected too.
 
as a smoker, i find that most smokers are very irresposible, if they want to go ahead and shorten they're lifespans, at least do it to themselves and spare a thought for the others who don't want to

eg. smoking in the lifts, smoking in toilet cubicles, smoking AT the bus stop (espescially while sitting next to a non-smoker), flicking cigarette butts all over the place

if only there were more responsible smokers in singapore (lyk me) den the government wouldnt be so bored and make new spastic rules to make singapore a better place
 
Wah Dahlia you extremist sia... People like you belong in China pre-80s.

People, we share this environment. Only thing between us and chaos is common courtesy. I smoke at the bus stop alone, nobody there. People come, I fark off. Is that hard to envision? Or is it harder to practice? Cmon man, its basic DECENCY. Unless your whole world smokes and no one knows what non-smokers feel. Cannot be right? I agree with Jeremyrozario. But sometimes its not just the irresponsible smoker's fault. Some smokers are damn blur, to the point of being irritating and deserve a bashing. Things like that snowball to govt intervention. I'm just say to say that these just sign of the times.
 
I used to get really pissy with smokers but now i dont mind at all. At the mudvayne concert on the weekend, my mate and his friends were smoking when we were waiting to get inside the venue so my clothes were covered in smoke and I didnt mind becuase I sorta like the smell, but thats me and im not the only person so they should be more considerate.
 
Banning it at Clubs, Pubs, Coffeeshops and Bus Stops just rediculous! Might as well banned the sell of cigerette in Singapore, like what they did to Chewing Gums...
 
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