scales

shredrat

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:cry: eh...dear folks...does practising the minor/major/pentatonic scales makes u a better solo-er. When i see those pros play,are they just simply playing scales with speed?? please enlighten me..thanks
 
shredrat, yes, practicing scales will improve your skills. :D


Practising scales for your solo will also impress people.

Practising scales for your solo will also make musicians bored.

Practising scales for your solo can be a good thing.

Practising scales for your solo can be a bad thing.

Check out this guitarist, Allan Holdsworth. Listen to his soloing. Since you are new to guitar, I assume you might find his shredding AMAZING, but it gets boring no? HOWEVER, to a seasoned musician, that is intelligent shred. He goes thru so many emotions so many phrases, telling SO MUCH, changing moods and etc etc etc... intelligent shred.
 
hhaaha true... :( ...haha...hey are major/minor scales same as pentatonic? can i change from a major scale to a pentatonic scale?
 
shredrat said:
thanks shredcow...So feelings are darn important in playin right?

Oh yes. They are..


But different ppl choose different ways of showing feel. SOme play slow. Some fast. Some do a white noise thing.
 
shredrat said:
haha ...k from now on i will master the art of playing scales damn fast to fascinate people :wink:

its not really about the speed, its how you portray your emotions and style thru your instrument. i only practice scales for strengthening my fingers, but man, playing scales fast up and down the fretboard can be a real bore. im not a shredder but with some creativity i can play some soulful stuff which i prefer more than shredding.

yeah sure, play and practice scales to reinforce your knowledge on the fretboard, but be immersed in your own world when you actually play. its just you and the guitar, and nothing else.

cheers and good luck ;)
 
i'm only really confused about one thing...

how do we mess around in scales so that we can jump all around the fretboard but still use different scales.

like.. not stay in Am pentatonic for the entire solo in the progression F, Am, C, G

besids using the relative major Cmaj scale?

help!
 
shredrat said:
haha ...k from now on i will master the art of playing scales damn fast to fascinate people :wink:

Hi bro! Dont just blindly memerize the scales. Play with 'feel'! thats the most important part of lead. U gotta have 'feel'. Play with your heart, not your scales
 
haha i know...thanks alot...anyway,whats the diff between pentatonic scale and major as well as minor scale? when to use them?
 
a pentatonic scale is juz a type of scale, juz like a car is a car but some cars are ferarris and some are toyotas.

minor scale? theory wise i think u juz have to flatten the third by a semitone compared to the major scale. i suck at theory so correct me if i'm wrong.
 
Feel is important. Scales are important. Speed is important - use this with care and caution.

While you can get by with the pentatonic, feel and and not much speed, you'll have lots more options handy if you knew more scales, be able to play fast (only when required) and do these with feel.

Different scales help you to express yourself musically in ways that say the pentatonic can't. Scales played at different speeds emit different moods. Different scales allow for more expressive options available to you.

Of course do it all with feel and it'll be lots better.

Lastly, don't lean too many scales at the same time. Give yourself time to get acquainted to the one that you are learning. Learn to express yourself with this one scale or mode before moving on.

Scales on their own do nothing for you if you can't play with feel and/or you can't change your playing speed to emit different moods.

Cheers & Have Fun!
RoRK
 
shredded said:
ShredCow said:
Practising scales for your solo can be a bad thing.

Oh! I didn't know that... how come?

It can be... a bad thing.

Because, scales are a norm, they are a standard. However, in music, is there really... any standard?

Practicing scales could... rob one of creativity so to speak.. because one would become "used" to the scale boxes, getting literally boxed up.

Again, its a can be , could be, maybe... so yeap.
 
eh thanks alot people. :lol: I've notice steve vai,he plays with exceptionally lots of emotion,feel that he's great.
 
hehehe for me i notice that .. if i played really2 soulfully ... it will end up ... not realising wad i play juz then ... although that piece is too good to be true ... its all from the heart ... flow out ur emotion transfer it too the guitar ... hehehe thats all i know man ... but for me the sucky thing ... is the part where i forget the whole solo ... even the starting note ... :wink:
 
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