SANSAMP GT2 VS JEKYLL HYDE OVERDRIVE(RED)

[snuffleupagus]

Hi guys,

currently own the gt2 , love it to death, but may want to experiment with the JEKYLL & HYDE.

Ive tried it, was blown away, but hard to tell as it was in a shop and the volume was pretty low.

Have any of you guys gigged with it yet?

Ive heard that there is excessive feedback at high volumes?Also I heard that its made in China(not that it matters, but QC wise?)

I'm lookin for more of a classic rock sound, Think Brian May /ACDC/Full sounding, not too thin and usable with my varied guitars(some single coil(parrelel)some (series)/Humbuckers/Humbuckers(split)

WOuld love to read your advice...

The GT2 is quite cool for me, but I think there may be something wrong with it , i dunno if its because of the one-spot adapter or something, cos the sound is becoming a bit thinny and theres a bit of hissing once in a while.Ive had it for 3 years and ive just changed the power source from 9v batt to one-spot.and suddenly and I feel the deteoriation of the sound.

anybody here have any similiar problems?



Any advice?

Thanks!

 

[Paulo]

at Guitar 77, Kerr brought the level to LOUD [amp volume about 4-5 only lol scary] when i was trying the JH abt some 3 weeks back. using a jap maple neck strat [3 single coils stock, Kerr's fav strat too] and their instore giant Fender amp. very impressed with the dist channel of JH, Beez set the initial tones. the OD channel sweet on blues or low gain styles. with the strat, it worked well for that 70s rock sound.

on Kerr's POT LP guitar H-H and Fender Aerodyne H-S-H FR. that dist setting rocked, then he switched the tones for metal riffs, scooping chugga tone achieved. started going on a Megadeth frenzy. the JH dist channel impressed again. noise levels were quite acceptable by me, my current setup has much more hiss still some unchartered waters on the OD channel for me, which is a positive for that box. can't imagine the modded version of JH, damn.....

 

[ShredCow]

The GT2 owns the J&H in terms of versatility and IMO, tone.

Also, the J&H doesn't strike me as a classic rock pedal. The J channel (TS clone) is really wayyyy too smooth, no hair and has a very compressed tone.

If you are keen on classic, my advice is to try the Tech21 TRI AC, which I have. And many others have. Its vintaged voice but does not have the heaps of gain the GT2 (which is also more modern sounding) has.

OR.

Hehe. Have you listened to www.miaudio.com effects? Or www.skreddypedals.com , the Screw Driver? :twisted:

Regarding your Gt2, have you experimented with other 1Spots/Adaptors?

If you want, just drop Tech21 an email, they will instruct you on how to ship the pedal to them to check it up.

 

[snuffleupagus]

Thanks guys,

Shredcow, the links you gave me ,,,cool.........

How much roughly is the Tri-Ac now?

I tried it before , using my friend's , but I probably didn't have enough time to tweak it to get the desired sound I guess.

Paulo, thanks for your advice on the JH, I may try to get them both, and work from there.

The problem I foresee with having a JH would be space constraints on my pedal board....(ridiculously shaped IMHO)but thats besides the point...

I liked the JH sound better as compared to the Tri-Ac when i first heard them respectively...as the tri-ac sounded a bit more harsh, and the gain options were a bit limited....


As for the one-spot,Hmmm, I'll have to investigate further it seems...(try wif diff adapters/batts/etc etc)

Thanks both of ya for your valuable advice!

 

[ShredCow]

How much roughly is the Tri-Ac now?

Around $300? $305 @ Gain10music

I tried it before , using my friend's , but I probably didn't have enough time to tweak it to get the desired sound I guess.

Well, the TRI AC is a very very tweakable unit. I can't emphasize this enough. All its controls interact with each other, you can turn up mids and expect your bass response to change! Turn up drive on the brit channel and the tone darkens. The thing is, the TRI AC actually emulates the classic amps extremely well... the nuances are all there.

How long did it take me to get a tone I like? 1 week. 1 week of sitting down, tweak, yeah this is want I want, save. Next day, ugh, too much bass. I've had mine for a good number of mths now and I'm still tweaking.

That said, you can tweak to get almost every tone you want.

The problem I foresee with having a JH would be space constraints on my pedal board....(ridiculously shaped IMHO)but thats besides the point...

Also, you cannot change the position of the J or H channels. Its always H into J.

I liked the JH sound better as compared to the Tri-Ac when i first heard them respectively...as the tri-ac sounded a bit more harsh, and the gain options were a bit limited....

Again, you need time with the TRI AC. It definately loses out in the gain dept. If you want gain its the J&H definately. Or your gt2.

As for the one-spot,Hmmm, I'll have to investigate further it seems...(try wif diff adapters/batts/etc etc)

You could sell your GT2 to me. 8)

 

[Timex]

go with the tech21 stuff. i have tried the VS products an feel that only one half of each pedal can make it. eg OD part of the JH, OD part of Route 66. Turn both on at the same time and u get lottsa hiss.

 

[snuffleupagus]

Thanks man....sorry shredcow, but i still love my GT2...Hhahah,

I heard that the Tech 21 double drive is good....but I can't seem to find it,,all out of stock.Anyone wanna sell?

Also the Tri-Ac seems interesting, but problem is, will there be hissing when you combine the pedals?

Also, do u use the one-spot too?


Thanks

 

[ShredCow]

Also the Tri-Ac seems interesting, but problem is, will there be hissing when you combine the pedals?

Also, do u use the one-spot too?

More gain = more noise. Esp when you are using units meant for more low gian applications. Try maxing a TS9's gain. Noise. Max a TRI AC's gain? Noise.

Its a balancing act when you are boosting or using multiple pedals... a very fine balancing act. Also, some pedals can combine well, no noise, some don't.

Yeap, I use the 1Spot, no issues.

 

[Paulo]

np on the JH experience shared, snuff.

the Tri-ac is great stuff, snuff. a buddy bought 1 like 4 years back, it kicked butt. tested it on my single coil strat, loved its ability. was selling close to 400 back then. if its cheaper now, all the better :lol: the gain/drive is perfect on it, works for me.

i bought a gt2 back in 96, its a great box with multiple tone possibilities. just that having to stoop down n tweak settings, every few songs in a club enviroment every nite. didnt work out well as that show band played without stopping. excellent box for DI-recording or gigging with 1-2 favourite sounds. i wouldnt sell it but if u are....... lots of takers im sure hehehe.

 

[NewGuy]

Where do you guys buy the gt-2? How much does it cost?

 

[Paulo]

http://gain10music.com very good prices too

 

[NewGuy]

eh... online store... no credit card, can't buy liao...

Is there those walk in store which can pay cash? Easier to deal and can test it out too...

 

[snuffleupagus]

Also the Tri-Ac seems interesting, but problem is, will there be hissing when you combine the pedals?

Also, do u use the one-spot too?

More gain = more noise. Esp when you are using units meant for more low gian applications. Try maxing a TS9's gain. Noise. Max a TRI AC's gain? Noise.

Its a balancing act when you are boosting or using multiple pedals... a very fine balancing act. Also, some pedals can combine well, no noise, some don't.

Yeap, I use the 1Spot, no issues.

Hi! sHred Cow,

I understand the point you are making,but i know for a fact that you can still hear buzzing or "noise" even if you dun tweak the gain to max....for certain pedals that is.

I normally try to dial the gain a little, just enuff to reach that breaking point, just to get that sustain and harmonics/but i seldom ever max it.

For some pedals you may need to max it ( or close to Max) just to reach that level( the sweet spot), and some, you dun need to dial that far to get there.

And some pedals react to the maxxing out/close to maxxing out situation by emiting noise,or some sort of buzz, and some pedals, u dun even need to dial that far to get the cream rich/sweetspot whatever tone, thus eliminating the possibility or incidence of noise.

So i guess its up to the individual's preference or liking i guess.

Only way to know is to buy them all and try them all and hopefull like them all.(or prostitute it @ luthers classifieds)
HAHA...sigh.

 

[ShredCow]

For the TRI AC, its pretty quiet till you up the gain to maybe from 3 oclock onwards.

Boosted, if you mix and match well, little noise.

I don't think you should worry abt it.

 

[ChanMin]

just my 2cents worth.

the GT-2 though good for chugga chugga... didnt really impress me in any other areas... after awhile.. the tones it produced.. tend to sound .. very stale..

the tri-ac i tried had too much treble like a very gritty kinda scratchy sound..... so dropped the idea straightaway. Tech21's amps also seemed to have this boxy kinda tone... the gt-2 circuitry though with the diff options and stuff seemed very impressive at first... but after awhile.. got boring for me. Maybe its cus im not into the modern metal kinda sound... more into the 80s.

Jekyl and hyde isnt more versatile then the GT-2 for certain. but its good for what it is... which is a full on marshall kinda dist tone. and a ts-9 style overdrive... i have one and im pretty happy with it. ( hint** brandon return my JnH ) very very good rythm sounds... i dont really like combining the two channels though..... only like them seperate. i use the barber direct drive for solos , JnH for OD and Dist tones. Good pedal.

 

[slipout]

eh... online store... no credit card, can't buy liao...

Is there those walk in store which can pay cash? Easier to deal and can test it out too...

for gain10, credit card isnt the only way of payment, they accept bank transfer(online banking)

 

[snuffleupagus]

just my 2cents worth.

the GT-2 though good for chugga chugga... didnt really impress me in any other areas... after awhile.. the tones it produced.. tend to sound .. very stale..

the tri-ac i tried had too much treble like a very gritty kinda scratchy sound..... so dropped the idea straightaway. Tech21's amps also seemed to have this boxy kinda tone... the gt-2 circuitry though with the diff options and stuff seemed very impressive at first... but after awhile.. got boring for me. Maybe its cus im not into the modern metal kinda sound... more into the 80s.

Jekyl and hyde isnt more versatile then the GT-2 for certain. but its good for what it is... which is a full on marshall kinda dist tone. and a ts-9 style overdrive... i have one and im pretty happy with it. ( hint** brandon return my JnH ) very very good rythm sounds... i dont really like combining the two channels though..... only like them seperate. i use the barber direct drive for solos , JnH for OD and Dist tones. Good pedal.

Hey ChanMin!

Thanks man, now I'm confused as ever.Almost wanted to buy the tri-AC after hearing the impressive SRV sounds online on their website.

But...now...

Hi Shredcow! was wondering, do you think its a good idea to combine the tri-ac with my GT2 on my board?

Will that be overkill?

I dun mind having many options for gain/overdrive, and was thinking if the dry channel from the tri-ac could act as a booster for the GT2 or ETC for my leads?

Thanks guys!

 

[popeye]

do you think its a good idea to combine the tri-ac with my GT2 on my board?

Good idea to show that you are rich :lol:

 

[ShredCow]

Hmmm... like what I said, the TRI AC needs a lot of time and tweaking. You can't sit down there and just dial in some thing perfect in 15 mins...

Chan Min, when you talk about the Treble overkill on the TRI AC, was that on the marshal channel with minimal/low gain? The Marshal channel emulates a marshal amp (can't rem the model) that actually gets brighter as the gain goes down... so your gain @ 9 oclock, i cannot stand the amount of treble even if the treble knob is just @ 12. Likewise, the Tweed channel, it really does emulate a Fender Tweed amp, down to the thin, mid scooped, sparkly cleans.

1 problem with the GT2 is that it has a flattish amp sim, in other words, on its own into PA or speakers, its unimpressive.

The TRI AC on the other hand, seems to have a more vibrant, useful amp sim.

And yeah, I did use a GT2 into a TRI AC... hehehe... its good its good... hi gain from the GT2, eq options from the TRI AC plus better amp sim, you can go crazy.

There are many applications for the TRI AC, you can run it on all 3 clean channels... 1 clean clean channel, 1 fat clean channel, 1 boosted clean channel... and run all your other gear thru it.

 

[ShredCow]

Actually, just go and try them out if you can... there's a SHARE thread above, at the top of the gear forum... meet up with people who have the TRI AC and play it.