recommendations on pedals?

sanzo

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hi im new to pedals so im like, looking for some good recommendations, preferably the multi-effects one. please list down the estimated price and place where you can find them.. also the brand and model number too.. thx!!
 
Multi effects and single pedals are really different. Please choose one.

State budget.
State types of music you play.
State types of effects you think you need.
Maybe give a sound (youtube clip) for a clue of how you want to sound.
State whether you using an amp or not. If yes, what amp.

Lastly state what you already know. Or any recommendations you receive so far. Or what had caught your eye so far.
 
Check out "Zoom" G1,G1X and the rest at Music City.Try those.Since you're new to this,Of course there's heavy duties ones too!!$$$
 
I guess almost everyone needs a distortion? (my assumption...) Get a Beta Aivin from SV or Davis. 50 bucks. Beta Aivin is a decent beginner pedal and there's only one model, so, ask to try it... If you wanna be safe? Go for Boss at Swee Lee. Triple digits.
 
Warm and clean pedal

Hi .. go to city music look for tone lab le.

This is worth it for u .. cause it come with built in engine valve reactor and many more to override your amp to suit your taste.on live or anywhere you play.

It easy to master. if u got problem with it u can pm me ..

www.myspace.com/humblepie780.

Good luck.
 
Lol i was kinda like, thinking of getting distortion and a wahwah pedal.. budget probably abt $200...
 
please list down the estimated price and place where you can find them.. also the brand and model number too.. thx!!

WTF??? You think here customer service ah? For goodness sake, go and search on these yourself. There are TONS of helpful reference sites on the internet. Brand, model, availability and even price?

If you're going to ask for so much information, at LEAST have the decency and courtesy to spell out THANK YOU in full!

WTF is wrong with our youth these days that they insist on getting spoonfed for every goddamn thing?
 
time to mass derep those who seek to be spoonfed!!!!

haha what whitestrat said is very true, the search function is there for a reason, within seconds i have access to all the numbers of the shops of the respective products. why the laziness
 
WTF??? You think here customer service ah? For goodness sake, go and search on these yourself. There are TONS of helpful reference sites on the internet. Brand, model, availability and even price?

If you're going to ask for so much information, at LEAST have the decency and courtesy to spell out THANK YOU in full!

WTF is wrong with our youth these days that they insist on getting spoonfed for every goddamn thing?

lol okay chill chill. dunneed so angry lol. its better to get people's recommendations online whatt. lol and if it bothers you so much, here's THANK YOU to everyone.. and i didnt insist that you had to help me lol. And I thought SOFT was a place where we could ask for other people's help and advice?. lol nvm.
 
soft is indeed a place to ask for advice and opinion, only when you have idea of what you want to ask and show that you have made some effort on your own to do some research first, narrow down the choice, let known budget, preference etc etc, before theres any real help of substance that will come in.

If not, mostly be random recommendation that might not really help in what you want other than telling you what brand what brand, without looking deeper into what is your needs and suitable for you.

If you just wanna brand name dropping help, there will be. If you wanna help thats of beneficial to what you need, then start helping us, by helping yourself, not to take here as a service center, coz none of us are paid to sit around just to answer certain things where it can be easily found with www.google.com. We can choose not to help and let you have all the brand names without much understanding and getting more confused even before asking. We response, coz to a certain extend, we would like to pass on somethng which we know, provided that you have the ability to understand what we can share.

Please do not take it the wrong way that some of us are nasty. We would sure love to help, only when you have some idea of what you want.

Looking back at the first post,

hi im new to pedals so im like, looking for some good recommendations, preferably the multi-effects one. please list down the estimated price and place where you can find them.. also the brand and model number too.. thx!!

lets see it in another form, and you can decide whether is it helpful..

I am new to handphone so iam like, looking looking for some good recommendation, preferably touch screen, wifi enabled, 3.5g at least, please list down the estimated price and place where i can find them, also the brand and model number too.. thx

so, do you think its gonna be an easy task? Considering the amount of handphone brand, model, in local singapore market and number of handphone shop in singaland.

Oh well, anyway, to be helpful at least, here are 2 websites of local music shops with multi effect where lotsa people used.

www.sweelee.sg
www.citymusic.com

Go thru them, look for the brand, model unit, product website etc etc, call up the shop and check the prices if you want, just to see whether is it within your budget, then look for online reviews or using search functions within the various gear forum and check for info. Coz believe me, what you are interested in, many others have gone thru and went much deeper in their search for multi effect. Knowing those info, will also help you gain knowledge of the things to do with multi effect or guitars in general.

Lastly, it will be my turn to say thank you to you, for reading this through, if you did read from beginning to end. And i do mean it, thank you.
 
lol okay chill chill. dunneed so angry lol. its better to get people's recommendations online whatt. lol and if it bothers you so much, here's THANK YOU to everyone.. and i didnt insist that you had to help me lol. And I thought SOFT was a place where we could ask for other people's help and advice?. lol nvm.

No, you're not asking for recommendations. You're asking for a list of what's out there, where to get it, and how much. This information can EASILY be obtained by doing a search, even in this forum. These topics have been discussed countless of times on the internet, on other forums, and in some cases, even here. There's even a list of the music shops you can call in this section if you'd only care to look.

If you're asking for comparisons between specific models, fine. That's asking for opinions. If you're asking which multi-effects allows direct to PC recording or something equally technical and specific, fine. You're looking for information.

But when you're asking about what to buy (which only you can decide) and where to get it (which is available at a click) and HOW MUCH (which only the store can tell you), then honestly, you're not trying very hard to learn, but just want people to feed you the little information you require. That's the problem I have with your request.

Help us to help you. Do some research, and come back with an intelligent question. Don't come and ask us if your foot is too small or too big for the expression pedal on the PODX3Live. Ask us if the expression pedal can be doubled up as a whammy controller. Get it?
 
Ok.. ignoring all the negativities here (valid points tho), here is my 2 cents.

Since you are new to playing with pedals, you can start out with Multieffects pedals. Once you become obsessed with tonal quality (though with current processors and high sampling rate, MFX pedals are very close to pedal boards in my opinion. Dont bash me on this now), you can start building your own pedal board with single effects :)

I have used zoom pedals for a long time. Had a trusty GFX-5 which is outdated now. I didnt really like it that much and decided not to get a Zoom anymore. However, recently, I tried the Zoom G7.1 and G9.2 and they are worlds apart from the older models. Zoom has definitely improved their pedals and I would definitely recommend them to you. G2 is also good, but go for a g7.1 if you can afford it.

I have also tried Boss GT series. They are good too. But a bit on the pricey side. And I heard GT10 has some easy way of making patches, didnt try that.

Not a big fan of the Korg ones. No particular reason, just didnt like the tones that much.

But the most important thing you should do is to go down to SweeLee(for Boss) and City Music (for korg and for zoom) and try them out. And see which suits your style of music. Cant emphasize this enough. All these shops let you try their products, so you dont have to completely rely on the advice from strangers in this forum. Too bad you just missed a good deal from City Music on the year end sale.

Let us know what you decided to buy.
 
Oh.. and I forgot to add an important point.

In all the MFX pedals, the factory presets are crap. So you should go for one that has atleast one of the two advantages:

1) Easy to set up new patches

2) Good online support where people share their patches.

Zoom G7.1 and G9.2 has a good patch bank online and some of them are really good. So does Boss GT10.

Go to google and youtube and check out the tones for some of the custom made patches by others.
 
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Since you are new to playing with pedals, you can start out with Multieffects pedals. Once you become obsessed with tonal quality (though with current processors and high sampling rate, MFX pedals are very close to pedal boards in my opinion. Dont bash me on this now), you can start building your own pedal board with single effects :)

Ah... Intelligent discourse... This is what I like.

I find that there are 2 schools of thought in this scenario.

1. As you said, it might be easier to begin with multi-efx (cheaper too!) than go down that endless route of pedal hunting. But what about the learning process of what to do with the pedals even within the multi-efx? If the user is reliant on the reset patches, and doesn't understand the necessary changes needed to get something to sound good, then the player doesn't really develop as well, does he?

2. I find that it might actually be more useful to start with individual pedals, learn their uses, and at the end of the day, when you've understood more, get a GOOD multi-efx for recording or even live purposes. That way, you know what to do with your patches to get it to sound right.

I went the multi-efx way in the beginning. I took a LONG time to understand the use and application of pedals. And most of the time, I got crap from my multi-efx while thinking it sounded great, and not understanding why. Then I went into my hunt for standalones, and I learnt a great deal there. Now, I use a PODXTLive for recording, and on the times where I build my own patches (and not use my standalones to supplement the tones), I'm able to get it to sound decent. But I took a long time to understand this.

Maybe a beginner SHOULD begin with pedals rather than a multi efx?
 
If the user is reliant on the reset patches, and doesn't understand the necessary changes needed to get something to sound good, then the player doesn't really develop as well, does he?

I honestly thought about this while I replied last time. But this is how I convinced myself.

I believe it is ok to rely on the factory set crap sounds in the initial stages of learning where it is necessary to emphasize your playing more than your tone. However, sooner or later, you will reach a stage where you will realize that even though you are playing a song exactly like the artist, it just does not feel right and thats when the importance of tonal quality will hit you. You can hear people complain abt tones all the time, but unless you feel the need to get 'your tone', you will never be 'successful' ( you know what I mean) in pedal hunting. So I believe that way, MFX starts your journey for single pedals rather than tie you down to a crap tone.

2. I find that it might actually be more useful to start with individual pedals, learn their uses, and at the end of the day, when you've understood more, get a GOOD multi-efx for recording or even live purposes. That way, you know what to do with your patches to get it to sound right.


I agree partially. MFX are essentially simulators for your single effects and amps. So unless you know the terminologies and what each parameter means and does, you will take a long time to find your tone. But, personally I think you can get over this if you start doing your research on single pedals. Go check out youtube to see what each pedal does to the tone and try those related parameters on MFX.

It took me a while to realize this. I kept fumbling with parameters in MFX on a trial and error basis without knowing what they stand for.

And this is also the reason why you need to buy a pedal that has a good online support.
 
So I believe that way, MFX starts your journey for single pedals rather than tie you down to a crap tone.

Yes, true. It is definately more cost effective.

BUT...

But, personally I think you can get over this if you start doing your research on single pedals. Go check out youtube to see what each pedal does to the tone and try those related parameters on MFX.

It took me a while to realize this. I kept fumbling with parameters in MFX on a trial and error basis without knowing what they stand for.

And this is also the reason why you need to buy a pedal that has a good online support.

The thing here is, firstly, online clips aren't exactly the best representation of what you'll get. The recording process throws a huge buffer into the mix, and the room acoustics plays a huge difference as well on what's being recorded. Unless you talk about studio recorded stuff, and even that has quite a bit of difference in play.

2ndly, newbies being newbies... Well, just don't really have that much patience to do this, don't they? Otherwise they won't be coming to a forum and asking for simple things like product models and prices?;)

I fully agree that good online support is key. That's why the PODXTLive is good to use for beginners, with a full chain and software support for everything the guitarist needs as a starting point. (TS, here's your recommendation right there.)
 
Another plus point to Line 6 products is that they allow you to download user-created patches to nail certain sounds. Your favourite musician's tone is always a good place to start to get your own sound. :)
 
Yes, true. It is definately more cost effective.


The thing here is, firstly, online clips aren't exactly the best representation of what you'll get. The recording process throws a huge buffer into the mix, and the room acoustics plays a huge difference as well on what's being recorded. Unless you talk about studio recorded stuff, and even that has quite a bit of difference in play.

Oh no, you got me wrong. I was just suggesting going to youtube to check out on different single pedals to understand what they do to a tone. Not check out the actual tone itself. For example, you see few parameters for a feature called "Chorus" in your multieffects pedal, it helps to check out what a chorus single pedal does to the tone. Just to understand the functionality so you understand all the features you have in your MFX.. After that you can go crazy creating your own pathces.
 
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