Pls help to recommend a digital piano for jazz piano learner

Hey congrats on the RD300SX, sound might be everything to some pple. its action though is not perfect esp. if you're spoiled by good weighted keys. If you play thru a decent pair of headphones , you can appreciate the piano sounds way better than thru any computer speakers.

Best is if you hear them stereo eg headphones vs even 1 keyboard amp.

Hope this solves your 'playing jazz alongside accompanying beat/rhythms' cos the P120 is actually a bloody decent DP esp its killer rhodes.
 
Go read up a bit on MIDI first because from the sound of your questions, i think you need to have some foundational knowledge first.

http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tutr/miditutr.htm

cheers :)

There's no point connecting your RD300 to your pc to trigger sounds from your pc unless you are doing some kind of sequencing or recording..

Neither of the 2 types of midi cables u mentioned will provide better sound.. cause the sound is not coming from the keyboard..
 
Aiyah Iansoh, joke at that time of the night...can't get it! Looks like the joke's on me!

OK ghn4ever, I'll try to repeat myself again - in simpler terms.

The only way you can get the sound out from the RD300SX is the audio output (the 2 jacks you see behind your RD300SX labelled "Output R, L(mono)" and the 3 pin cannon outputs (labelled "Balanced Out R, L"). The one labelled "Phones" also transmit audio signals - of which you connect your headphones. There is no other way you can get sound out from your keyboard.

The midi outputs you see at the back (labelled "midi in, out 1, out 2 and thru") with the 5 pins does not transmit any sound or audio signals. It doesn't matter what you connect it to - it just does not transmit any sound. It transmit midi messages, which is not sound.

Midi 101. We use midi cables to connect to: 1. other musical electronic musical instruments or 2. PC via a midi interface. What this does is that it sends messages which will "talk" to the other instrument or PC, very much like networking computers. For example using Iansoh's example, if we connect a cable from your RD300SX midi out to your P120 midi in, when you play the keys from your RD300SX, the messages (ie what note you play, how long you hold the notes, how hard you hit the notes etc) will be transmitted to the P120. Mind you, these are not audio signals. What these messages then do is to trigger the same notes, same duration etc to your P120. Your P120 reads this signals, then plays exactly the same notes, but this time with it's own sound. On a PC, we use midi to do what we call sequencing, which is really programming or recording what we play into the PC (with appropriate software). The software will record the midi signals (I repeat, not sound) which can then trigger sounds from any other electronic instruments you connect it to. This will get complicated for you at this stage, and you don't have to go into it. The USB port you see functions the same as the midi ports - it only transmit midi signals, NOT SOUND. We connect that to the PC to transmit midi signals.

So simple answer - no. You will not get any sound if you connect the midi or USB cable to the computer or speakers. It's not about getting better sound - you will not get ANY sound. I hope this clears up some confusion.

As for your Bose, I think you should be quite safe. The power of the amp exceeds your piano. So your amp should be able to take the audio out from your digital piano. Just start soft, then slowly increase the volume. If the wattage is the other way round, then there's danger of damaging your speakers. You'll not damage your digital piano since you are connecting audio from your keyboard to your speakers, not the other way around. Nothing is sent ifrom your speakers into your keyboard (except it's own power supply). As for Creative speakers, you can try to see if the sound is OK for you. I wouldn't recommend it as the sound is not well-defined enough.

Does this clear things up? I know to most of us, this is really foundational. But I can understand to a beginner, it can get extremely confusing. Anyway, we don't mind helping you step by step to clear up the confusion. Just don't call me Prof... :(
 
It was the sales gal :axe: in the Swee Lee told me that either of these 2 cables connecting to my PC would be able to trigger the sound from PC speakers. and I clearly remember that she even told me the standard MIDI ports can provide better sound than the USB ports do.

:smt017 Clear my mind first. Now I understand. It's just analogic to connection from TV audio (L/MONO, R) and Video outputs to amp. The stupid question I kept asking is just like asking whether Video outputs can produce SOUND! How can it be possible ?

So this cable will do the job , right ?


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YES!!!
the 2 with 1 black strips is MONO plug (for L/R), the one with 2 black strips is STEREO plug (for stereo or headphone).
Both of them come with 3.5 mm & 1/4" size. just a simple adapter can switch between them (3.5 or 1/4").
 
what's with sales ppl thinking that midi transmits audio.... these people know nothing about the products they sell!
 
sales ppl juz wan $$$
dun noe, nvrm - juz bullshit

lesson learnt - do your homework before shopping

the best way to tackle a sales person,
ask something that you already know,
see if he can answer you.
 
Yes, you've got it. I don't know why that sales person says that. Your analogy is accurate.

As for the plug you showed, as mingguan says, it is one stereo jack to mono L and R. Best way is to get two (2) separate cables - one connect from the L output of you keyboard to the L input of your speakers; R output from your keyboard to the R input of your speakers.

You can use the cables you showed. But you have to connect the cable to the phone jack to get stereo output.

Iansoh, sounds like this sales person is related to the one you met in Plaza - maybe they are good friends, or maybe they attended the same "keyboard sales training course". So very sad. Perhaps one way is to bring back the keyboard to that same person, and tell them that the midi port is "not working" because it does not give out sound - and then see what they do!! If they finallly worked out they gave the wrong info, perhaps we can ask for a hefty discount since ghn4ever bought the product based on wrong information. :lol:
 
A little too short, but yes, something like that will do.

Mingguan, always good to have extra cables in stock. I have 2 bags of cables in all kinds of length and types!
 
mingguan said:
wah!!! you have so many cable at home ready for use?
BTW, next time you buy, try buy gold plated one, better.

:smt043 No lah.... I found these pictures from the internet.
 
Can you guys recommend some books / videos on Jazz/blues improvisation and voicing ? So many books on Amazon, dont know what to choose.
 
ghn4ever said:
Can you guys recommend some books / videos on Jazz/blues improvisation and voicing ? So many books on Amazon, dont know what to choose.

i've seen a lot of books at borders.. u may want to go check it out.. can browse.. better than amazon.
 
:smt089 :smt089 :smt089 dont want RD300 liao. should i sell it or return to the shop ? lightly used for a few days only .
 
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