petrucci - as i am

[nitrovo]

I'm wondering how john gewts the feedback so quickly in as i am, in the beggining intro, when he holds down 6th fret on E i think it is. I can only do it by letting go and having an open string and waiting for a few seconds for it to stgart making the sound.

he does he do it?

 

[Drewgie]

I read thats it's some weird technique in which if you position yourself in certain positions in front of the amplifier then the harmonic will really ring out loud

 

[Drewgie]

I found these on the net -

'turn your amp up very loud, play that note, find a good feedback spot and then play the riff and stand in that spot when you sustain that note, then you get the same as petrucci did, thats how he did it live, he explains it, and he misses it one time on Live at budokan so its all in finding feedback spots.'

'I think you're trying to get feedback harmonics. If you watch Live at Budokon then you'll see that JP is extremely worried that he might miss the spot of feedback for the start. You just need to hold the note and then find the position you have to be for your amp to give feedback.'

 

[nitrovo]

haha yeah budoken was where i 1st heard the song.

i'll go watch it now and pay close attention to his position and face to see if he gets worried

thanks for finding the info

edit: haha yeah the 1st time he plays the riff he misses it right?

Then he goes and stands in then exact spot and doesnt move at all except his ingers until that part is over.

Cool

 

[letterhead]

ohh, so he really uses that technique, i tot the sound was engineered by sum special "feedback pedal"... cool but it really is very unstable, his distortion must be cranked to the max...

 

[BurntRice]

he really was worried in budokan

portnoy was talking abt it and it went something like:
"well this guy gets to paky thousands of notes, and this is the the only one he is really worried abt"

petrucci replies:"yeah that would define if it is gonna be a good or bad show"

off my head quotes, but the idea is there

 

[ShredCow]

You don't exactly need to "crank distortion to the max" to get feedback. Those who have been to ktv can attest to that. Just a good volume and some dolt to put to the mic near a speaker and the thing feedbacks.

You just need enough gain/volume for feedback to occur. How you control it is different, thats where you talk abt positioning and notes and what not.

Oh, you can cheat too! Boss DF-1. Distortion Feedbacker.

 

[Foo]

i've been trying as i am too for quite some while also. its one of the harder (or hardest) dream theater songs in my opinion. i can't quite finish the solo

 

[letterhead]

You don't exactly need to "crank distortion to the max" to get feedback. Those who have been to ktv can attest to that. Just a good volume and some dolt to put to the mic near a speaker and the thing feedbacks.

You just need enough gain/volume for feedback to occur. How you control it is different, thats where you talk abt positioning and notes and what not.

Oh, you can cheat too! Boss DF-1. Distortion Feedbacker.

ohh... i didn't noe there was such a pedal... how much is it? i wanna get one, haha. But... the "KTV Feedback" isn't constructive feedback. that is pure screech without pitch... its heart piercing to hear that... haha... especially when the aunties sing out of tune

 

[Crawldaddy]

Hmm.

I use my dunlop 95Q wah/volume pedal.. and given the right amount of volume boost, and of course a considerable amount of gain on the dist pedal you can get it to start feeding back very easily.

 

[ZackUidl]

IN live in Budokan he had to stand in a specific spot to get his amp to feed back. That is why it is not so string the first time. The second time, after he adjusted his position, he got it.