Perhaps we really need to test guitars blindfolded....

Crawldaddy

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Hmm.

Okay, before this gets out of hand into another "hello, most guitar brands are obviously better than the budget one you're referring to" flaming session...

Allow me to say that I have never been more impressed with a TGM electric in my entire guitar playing life. Then again, it is only this one model out of so many that really made my eyes "open big big".

So I was in a certain store with my pal, and I was actually browsing around, looking out for the Godins etc, when this TGM set-neck Les Paul caught my eye. I was intrigued and I asked the shop-keeper if I could give it a try.

What really caught my eye was that you seldom see TGM electrics with set-necks, and when I held it, I felt the weight (well solid alder body with mahogany neck). The only finish flaws was a teeny scratch at the back of the neck, and perhaps the binding wasn't perfect. Also the bridge humbucker was at an odd angle, and the bridge hubucker ring didn't fit the contour of the body well. But hey... the best part is when it is plugged in.

The amp he plugged the guitar into was a marshall AVT100 and my friend set the clean channel to a flat frequency response (bass, mids, treble on 12 o'clock). I was surprised to hear a very nice clean sound which is both fat and yet clear. I switched between pickup positions and was pleased to hear no muddiness. Perhaps this nice tone is due to the solid alder body. Or it could be the rather excessive 100-watt solid-state, half-stack amp I was playing it through. Anyway.

When I turnd on the overdrive, I was really impressed with the sound: thick, crunchy and with abit of EQ tweaking got a very nice rock and roll (think ZZ Top) guitar sound. The sound and playability (no sky-high string action on this model) was just so addictive I could not stop playing.

I'm honestly rather impressed with the standard of fit and finish in this model, which costs only $280. Perhaps if anyone else has a good experience with TGM's latest offerings (or any non-mainstream, budget guitar brand), they could share it here. Perhaps dreams of a good tone can be attained by those who are not so well-off after all.

And on a final note, please be reminded that I am not paid to do this post, and it is completely out of my willingness to share with fellow softies a good guitar that has the bang for the buck.

peace
 
Well, some players ( not all) when they hear Samick, Vantage, they'll say EEEEEEEE! Why do i wana play that. But when they hear Gibson Historic Les Paul, Fender Custom shop, Ibanez J-custom, they'll say WOW!!!! power guitars! It sound like heaven!!!!!! Same goes to pedals. Some swear by their DS1 stock. Some swear by Keeley DS1, Some swear by their crunchbox.
 
if there is to be a pradigm shift; it's not gonna happen soon.

when it comes to electric guitars, there's this 'better safe than sorry' mindset as buying guitars is an expensive engagement for many individuals. it doesn't help that certain brand names are more aggressively marketed than others. same goes for the professionals; they would be inclined towards certain brand names & this is impressionable among those starting out.
 
Hmm.

It is rather natural for people (as subversion mentioned above) to go for the more prominent brands... after all who hasn't GASsed for a Gibson, Fender, Gretsch, and many others :(

Perhaps someday some pro player will play a budget guitar and prove that really... we should be listening to, rather than paying more attention to the brand of the guitar.

Or is there someone out there who's already done that...? :o
 
after a GAS episode for the major brand name products, some of us are left with a bitter experience. this situation seems to be unbelieveable to some afficionados...
 
I guess the pros rather be endorsed and paid handsomely by the big brand names than trying to prove the point that budget guitar makers/brands works just as well :lol:

Well...let's see who'll be the first local guitarist/band to be endorsed/supported by Samick/Vantage/Cort now that Gibson has started its 'endorsement' campaign here :P
 
its all about the brand.

Singaporeans unfortunately are brand whores...

the $300 TGM guitar may be good sounding and of decent quality.

but if you pit it against a $3000 Gibson Lespaul which will most probably sound and play comparably to it.
the gibson will just win hands down due to its Historical background, Branding and Endorsement deals.

One must face the fact that a guitar is more then just build quality, playbility and tone.

Gibsons for a fact do not sound or play alot better then Epiphones ... But a gibson is a Gibson and a epiphone will forever be a epiphone -- their most obvious difference is their Brand. Blind tests will tell you that a gibson is not worth twice the money. but who wants to play a copy? a budget version? if their financial situation allows , they will get the real deal.

Like how everybody remembers the first man to fly solo across the atlantic ocean. The public wont care that the second guy did it in half the time and used less fuel.
 
I like this thread.

I have a so called 'project guitar' its not a high flying brand. what i did with it was i changed the pickups, changed the pots and selectors, threw in a wilkinson bridge, and of course did a custom paintjob on the head..

and whenever my friends try it or whenever i bring it live.

they never fail to ask me..

' eh what guitar sia you using? damm nice to play '

i guess its just a mental block we all have when it comes to choosing between the fenders or the sammicks.

actually truth is with the rising competetion among this so called entry level guitar makers. they actually start to make better guitars for a a good price.
 
Perhaps someday some pro player will play a budget guitar and prove that really... we should be listening to, rather than paying more attention to the brand of the guitar.

Or is there someone out there who's already done that...? Surprised

Ironically,when a PRO actually DOES make a budget guitar sound good,that guitar would be considered branded already..and the price would increase tenfold.
 
i guess good guitar brands are those which can be trusted to make good guitars at most of the time. whereas we cant trust TGM to make good gits everytime :?
 
if there are dedicated 'custom' shop division in the manufacturer's establishment, production would be 'trustworthy' indeed. the reason Cort's Neil Zaza model happened:

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hmm yeah interesting thread.. nowadays guitars are getting better in terms of workmanship and quality... but it'll take some time to tell i guess.

personally, i dont know but i still prefer to include the"made in ____" factor when i want to choose a guitar, its important. and.. whoops confession yes i'm quite against china... even if it will sound really good, i cannot be sure it'll last...

wonder if anyone feels like that too...
 
i share the same sentiments as keithC..


well.BUT i still give it a try..MIC..MIK or MII (india)..or wadeva la.. :lol:


but when it comes to buying,. :lol:

different story.
 
May be that particular TGM =p

While shopping for my 2nd electric which I subsequently bought from Ranking Sports I tried many of the TGMs and those were the first on my can't make it list. To me they really really sounded dull. I bought a Crafter Convoy SP for $380 instead which sounded much better though it's a hundred bucks more.

That said, none of my guitars have the feel nor tone and mojo of my $80 China made stratocaster counterfeit. Just got it back from a friend after a loan of 3 years. Bought it when I was a total noob and thought all guitars were just strats. So bought the cheapest one I could find.

Right now I'm still trying to convince myself that my PRS plays and sounds better. It isn't happening. That $80 plywood strat is a gem!
 
It's tough to say your strat sounds better than your PRS, because the guitars intrinsically have different sounds. Even with the 5 way rotary switch, I personally can't get my PRS to sound like my strat. So maybe you just prefer a stratty tone? PRS guitars tend to have thicker, fuller tones even on the bridge pup.

I'd make a comparison, say, between a Suhr/Tyler strat vs a Fender MIM, for instance.

Playability, on the other hand, I can understand. Also depends what your fingers are comfy with I guess.

Fortunate are those who find bliss in guitars that don't burn a hole in the pocket.
 
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