Just Some Discussion from my FaceBook Page
Eric: - All Things remains Constant ( Status Quo) – Same Drummer With Same Technique - - Different Double Pedals – will Perform Indefinitely Different in terms of Their Speed & Power here to him ..- Pls NOTE & Its Very True.
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nice topic for discussion.
this phrase is very true - "different double pedals will perform indefinitely different"
there are too many possible combinations and adjustments for any single pedal, coupled with the many brands and models out there.
once you factor in... even drummers technique (posture, seat height, muscles used, heel heights, angle/type of motion used to generate one hit) are indefinitely different .. it becomes impossible to nail down to a single factor (direct drive better than chain)
that said, i have observed the newer pedals have quicker response than well-known pedals that have been around last 10-15 years.
on personal note, these are the pedals i've tried i group them this way:
first group: tama iron cobra (power glide/rolling glide) , yamaha single chain, dw5000 - good up to 180+ bpm
2nd group: slightly newer ones : dw9000 , iron cobra flexi glide, pearl eliminators, yamaha flying dragons - smoother than first group, easily good up to 200bpm
3rd group: very new ones (last 5 years or so) : axis, trick, pearl demon drive, mapex p980a, mapex falcon (chain & direct) - they're that bit smoother than 2nd group
that said i'm from the old school (slow !!) my practice routine revolves around life at the 100-200bpm range. sigh... haha
nowadays kids very advanced .. i see some of them going 220bpm (extreme metal speeds range 210-250) ... is really cool ... some of them even use el cheapo pedal.... it seems it just boils down to how fast you can twitch ...
some other notes:
- tim waterson (youtube him) modify his tama ICs and can hit 220-250bpm range, with heel toe hits above 300bpm
- axis/trick pedals have a super response where the pedal continues moving back and forth extremely quickly after initial hit. theoretically if you can align your twitch to match the response of the pedal the double pedalling becomes kind of effortless
- super fast response pedals might seem lacking power but power generated by several factors including size of bass drum, amount of bass drum muffling (putting stuff inside bass drum), beater type, size, material, beater length etc.
- i was watching a regular dude on youtube (looks like some guy just play bedroom drums) and he hits 240 just by twitching and claims he can do it on all pedals he own (yamaha, mapex, pearl, tama etc.) ... is incredible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-FMdGfmT0
(see around 1:20)
http://www.youtube.com/user/GregBatte#p/a/u/0/cB2DvfusAbo
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