New to Pedals

[darkxtr4ger]

I've been playing on my starter guitar and amp for a couple of months till now, and i'm thinking of upgrading my guitar, and also to get a pedal after reading and hearing so much about them. I'm completely oblivious to whatever pedals that are out there in the market, or even it's functions. So here I humbly request all you helpful soft dwellers here to help me out

I've seen guitarist play on their guitars with their pedals turn on and the effect is awesome and I want to get there too! So yes, please help me out

What pedals should i get to make my pickups more sensitive to small changes in sound produced by the strings? What other pedals should i get to supplement the tone for a beginner?

thanks all for reading and the consideration

 

[FiS]

perhaps u can share ur music background or the type of music u wanna play.

but basically its better to start off with overdrive pedals. I think.
try out BOSS and FAB pedals. a good start for beginners to pedals.
cheap but does its job really well everytime

 

[AaronSoFat]

hmmm i remember what my friend said.. always start out with multi effects... kinda works.. but after you know what u want its kinda hard to sell multi effects.. especially the entry level ones.. heh

 

[D'arc~en~ciel]

yeap. true true. try not settle for entry-level multi effects.

well,for a good start,i think everyone would agree with Boss Ds-1? its an evergreen distortion pedal that never seem to be outdated. plus there's also different mods to it. here's a link.
http://www.standardvalue.com.sg/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=94

in progression to this,common pedals would be Chorus,Flanger,Delays and my personal favourite,d ibanez tubescreamer(TS9/TS808)

Lots to figure out,plus u gotta pick one that suits your music needs.
If your budget is stretch-a-ble den maybe a Korg AX3000/Pod XT/Boss GT6/ Zoom G7?

I've not had much experience with all the pedals, -which is where the kind community of Soft comes in.

They are more than willing to share their views on their fav pedal.

Aniwaes, gd luck on choosing the right pedal/s!

 

[j_m_s]

Id say get a good distortion/overdrive pedal first. Those multi channel ones would do you good.

I think you will benefit from the versatality of dual channel pedals.

Also, we need your musical tastes so we can help determine what "effects" you are looking for.

 

[AaronSoFat]

Well, personally i got the Korg AX3000g, really worth it for the price. However, the not so heavy sounds really need working on... gotta get external drives.. thinking of getting a modded ds-1. but you gotta know what sounds u want first before i can really recommend anything. heh

 

[crozzfire]

Basically, you know nuts about effects right? Here's an opinion which you might wanna consider. Since you do not know much, it is better for you to experiment and hear these effects yourself, to determine which and what effect is suitable for you. In this case, you might wanna get a multi effect to explore the different distortion and modulation types before investing in single stompboxes which will cost you much more.

Oh yes, and do listen to more sound clips online to have a rough idea on what each effect does.

my 1cent worth

 

[snuffleupagus]

Hmm, maybe to start out, you could try the BOSS ME 50, its a sort of cheaper alternative multi EFX pedal that is user friendly and great for beginners.

The Boss ME 50 will teach you how each effect works with its simplistic interface, and it will develop your knowledge on how effects would work with your amp.

It does not do amp -modelling though, which to me, is a good thing.

2nd hand is around $260-350?

 

[darkxtr4ger]

Okay thanks guys, you all are really fast!

btw another question, are the shoptenders of Davis' chinese?

edit: i really like the idea of exploring with a multi effects pedals first. i'll keep and eye out for the suggested models of pedals in our buy/sell section!

 

[darkxtr4ger]

Hmm, maybe to start out, you could try the BOSS ME 50, its a sort of cheaper alternative multi EFX pedal that is user friendly and great for beginners.

The Boss ME 50 will teach you how each effect works with its simplistic interface, and it will develop your knowledge on how effects would work with your amp.

It does not do amp -modelling though, which to me, is a good thing.

2nd hand is around $260-350?

Will I be able to use this for a long time in my "career" as a guitarist? And the resale value for 2nd hand goods are always around the same right?

As for the music that i play, i think it's very general. I learn my stuff from www.guitarmasterclass.net and these lessons range from blues to metal to anything else!

 

[Danelectrico]

if you go by the multieffects path, i'd agree with the ME-50. it's cheap and the layout and functionality is really intuitive - it's like the guts of a couple stompboxes put together in the same chassis. it's a good primer on how to use stompboxes.

however i have heard reliability issues with those, and seen it too...during one of our shows with Rivermaya, Rico's just up and died minutes before their set. my old ME-10 from many moons ago died twice on me too.

honestly though - if you ask me, i'd recommend individual pedals. Start with an overdrive. Get what you can afford, but the recommendations that follow are for the budget conscious. You can't go wrong with a Boss OD-3 Overdrive, or a Boss BD-2 Blues Driver (although with the latter I'd really recommend having goose mod it). Then a delay next - the Digitech Digidelay's my favourite multi purpose delay and it's really cheap too. Then maybe another overdrive or booster to alternate or stack with - the Digitech Bad Monkey's a great Tubescreamer type pedal that can hang with the big boutique boys.

For other modulation pedals, see what you like and choose based on your priority. a phaser (MXR Phase 90), chorus (EHX Small Clone or Boss CE-2) or wah (Vox V847) would be good although you may never need any of those. A tremolo (Carl Martin Surf Trem or EHX Stereo Pulsar) if you're into that sound would round things up nicely.

basically, just listen and learn about effects that might interest you, and try as many of them. buy based on what your budget will allow.

 

[j_m_s]

I used to have an me50. Though now id prefer to recommend people to start off with single pedals. (You're more or less bound to go to single pedals in the future!, or at least i think)

^ Dan has some good recommendations, the OD3 is pretty good.

Well, you could do some reading up on the different types of effects as well. Theres tonnes of clips on the net for you to listen to!

 

[ebenex]

g2.1u

multi effects would be a good start.

i'd recommend the zoom g2.1u from city music. it's only around $200, comes with Cubase LE software and has basically everything you need. (no, we do not sell them hence i'm not advertising for ourselves)

would suggest you try that out first before considering stompboxes.

thanks.

regards,

david
ebenex music

 

[darkxtr4ger]

Okay one last question.

Which pedal function makes pickups more sensitive to small changes in sound produced by the strings?

 

[prophecy6972]

Okay one last question.

Which pedal function makes pickups more sensitive to small changes in sound produced by the strings?

To my knowledge, there are no pedals that does this. For more sensitivity, you need to look at different pickups for your guitar...but that is another world of stuff. Some of the advice given on multi-effects here, you can pretty much get most sounds that you're going for. Some of the single pedals mentioned does give great tone, but at a price. For a start, I'd go with a multi-effects pedal that I can manage. Things like the Boss GT-8 and POD X3/XT, Vox Tonelabs, Digitech GNX-3/4/3000, Zoom Gu7 or 9 series, all these give you great tone and flexibility, but it takes some time to get used to the individual interface. Also take note of what interface does each multi-efx pedal has to be linked to your pc/mac (mostly pc). To my knowledge, you can use the POD X3 to record straight into your pc thru USB.

Hope this adds a little light to your search. Good luck...

 

[fiqthefallen]

Okay one last question.

Which pedal function makes pickups more sensitive to small changes in sound produced by the strings?

normally distortion/overdrive pedals can detect these changes, distorting these unnecessary sounds and becoming noise in the process. a pedal with noise gate is good if ya wanna eliminate these noise. one example is the Ibanez Smash Box.

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

actually the problem not with any pedals, it got to do with the question

Lets look at the question asked, "pedal function to make pickup more sensitive to small changes in sound produce by the string"

first of all, lets go deeper, when we look at this" changes in sound produce by string", are we looking at the different gauge of strings? Different way of plucking/picking, at different area of where we usually do? or perhaps effect of having a new set of strings/old strings etc?

as for detecting changes, are we looking at proper setting up of guitar/pickup adjustment against all the strings response over where we pick or when switching the pickup selector switch, making sure that volume can be evenly heard

and deeper into detection, are we looking at more sensitive towards eliminating unwanted string ringing(which can be minimised by string muting with fretting hand or picking hand fingers not holding pick) or more sensitive in pushing up softer notes to be amplifed(in this case, compressor might be useful, but of course playing technique/dynamic control also play a big part)

we can intro many things to buy with money, but unfortunately, if not knowing whats the actual cause, we will help to waste his money.

imho

 

[darkxtr4ger]

I marvel at how other guitar tap their guitar, for example and getting so much sound out of the really light taps. I tried it on my own i get a whimper from my guitar.

I think I get it, it's due to the lousy pick ups that my guitar has.

And yes thanks guys i'll most probably get a overdrive boss something pedal or one of those multi effect pedals recommended above!

 

[Danelectrico]

Overdrive or distortion also compresses your signal, making soft sounds and playing nuances jump out. It's also got to do with the setup of your guitar (string height, fret size), and your volume - and mainly your technique. i don't think pickups play that big a part, unless they're really bad or not working. Your right hand tapping finger should cleanly hammer the note down, then you should pull downwards a little before releasing, so the note fretted by your left hand sounds out. If you do this correctly, you should be able to hear the notes even playing unamplified.

 

[fiqthefallen]

I marvel at how other guitar tap their guitar, for example and getting so much sound out of the really light taps. I tried it on my own i get a whimper from my guitar.

I think I get it, it's due to the lousy pick ups that my guitar has.

And yes thanks guys i'll most probably get a overdrive boss something pedal or one of those multi effect pedals recommended above!

that might be because u need a sustainer system to actually make your tapped notes sustain longer. no matter how light you tap with that system, the string just vibrates continuously until dunnowhenyouwantittostop...