Frail, tats an immature, without thinking, 'jus shoot anyhow' kinda statement. Sure, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but at least back them up wif concrete and debatable facts. Not jus slurrin as and when u like. U tried Paiste yet? Or u jus basing ur 'honest-to-goodness' opine on mere usage of their low-end stuff or are u jus a fan boy? Not tryin to put u down, but at least, be more open next time, instead of having a one-track perception. I bet ur jus a student whose music school or school uses paiste 101s and the likes. And again if im wrong, well at least u got a mind of a beginning student.