need help in my drumming.
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caijunlong
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I think everyone who drums will have this problem. Some talented ones would overcome it faster. practice slow fill-ins first. and try to speed things up gradually. Try practicing with a metronome if you have a drumset at home. I've heard many professional drummers saying this, "There is no harm starting slow." 
WayneThunder
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the best way to tackle tricky fills is to slow down what you want to do until you can analyse at which exact point in the fill your hands get crossed up. then you can start thinking about how to avoid the problem, usually by transferring one stroke to another drum or hand in this case. then you practice it till you can do it at the desired tempo!
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the best way to tackle tricky fills is to slow down what you want to do until you can analyse at which exact point in the fill your hands get crossed up. then you can start thinking about how to avoid the problem, usually by transferring one stroke to another drum or hand in this case. then you practice it till you can do it at the desired tempo!
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alvinthedrummer
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Hi, although slowing down is a MUST.....you will still need a proper system to practice. Most of my students that have problems like this have poor grounding from their previous teachers (understanding of note values, time etc). Look, it is still better to have someone assess your playing since your problem could be caused by alot of things. I suspect your problem is not purely phyical. It may be a mental issue, that is, the lack of confidence....you may not have a clear understanding of the fills you were trying to play and thus, the execution problem.
hmm don't know if you tried this... or if this works but here goes...
using 16 notes, play 4 notes on each drum part in a certain order following the metronome... you can go clockwise (snare, tom 1, tom 2, floor tom), anticlockwise (snare, tom 1, tom 2, floor tom), then mix the orders...
soon advance into 2 notes per tom and do the same thing..
hope it helps
using 16 notes, play 4 notes on each drum part in a certain order following the metronome... you can go clockwise (snare, tom 1, tom 2, floor tom), anticlockwise (snare, tom 1, tom 2, floor tom), then mix the orders...
soon advance into 2 notes per tom and do the same thing..
hope it helps
drummar-buah
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yo dude!
You not only have to start working on it slow, but with a great deal of continuous repetition. I would reccomend you doing it at 80bpm semi-quavers for half an hour AT LEAST for at least 3-4 days a week if u wanna achieve accuracy to it's most precise.
I've read this off at drummerworld forums that this drummer named Mike Mangani (who, in case you don't know, is the current world champion for playing the most number of single strokes in one minute. 1200+ if i'm not wrong. that's playing semiquavers at over 300bpm!!!!!!!!!! GARRRR!!!)
ok back to topic. he said that if he comes across like some stuff that's challenging to play, he'd practice it at slow tempos (60bpm-80bpm) for AT LEAST ONE AND A HALF HOUR. NINETY MINUTES. he says he usually goes up to 3 hours just staying on one exercise at that slow tempo. this way, you train muscle memory, which is the ability to have certain motions "captured" into your muscles (in this case, fingers and arms and wrists (i know wrist isn't a muscle)) so that afterwhich, you can deliver your rolls much more clearly and cleanly.
and he said something like, you can achieve speed even without practicing at fast tempos. cuz with the motions captured into your "muscles", it becomes like second nature to you. and as long as u practice slowly, and with tempo precision, more "perfect motions" will be captured. the reason why we become inconsistent is because we aren't delivering the right motions.
Personal experience - i've been practicing my double pedaling at 70bpm semiquavers for 90min 3 days straight, but i've reduced to 30min now, and i've been doing this for about 2 and a half weeks. though i've been practicing at such slow tempos, i could now play semiquavers at 180-200 pretty consistently, till after a few decades of seconds before fatigue sets in.
It feels like magic........
SORRY FOR THE LONG POST MAN!!!
You not only have to start working on it slow, but with a great deal of continuous repetition. I would reccomend you doing it at 80bpm semi-quavers for half an hour AT LEAST for at least 3-4 days a week if u wanna achieve accuracy to it's most precise.
I've read this off at drummerworld forums that this drummer named Mike Mangani (who, in case you don't know, is the current world champion for playing the most number of single strokes in one minute. 1200+ if i'm not wrong. that's playing semiquavers at over 300bpm!!!!!!!!!! GARRRR!!!)
ok back to topic. he said that if he comes across like some stuff that's challenging to play, he'd practice it at slow tempos (60bpm-80bpm) for AT LEAST ONE AND A HALF HOUR. NINETY MINUTES. he says he usually goes up to 3 hours just staying on one exercise at that slow tempo. this way, you train muscle memory, which is the ability to have certain motions "captured" into your muscles (in this case, fingers and arms and wrists (i know wrist isn't a muscle)) so that afterwhich, you can deliver your rolls much more clearly and cleanly.
and he said something like, you can achieve speed even without practicing at fast tempos. cuz with the motions captured into your "muscles", it becomes like second nature to you. and as long as u practice slowly, and with tempo precision, more "perfect motions" will be captured. the reason why we become inconsistent is because we aren't delivering the right motions.
Personal experience - i've been practicing my double pedaling at 70bpm semiquavers for 90min 3 days straight, but i've reduced to 30min now, and i've been doing this for about 2 and a half weeks. though i've been practicing at such slow tempos, i could now play semiquavers at 180-200 pretty consistently, till after a few decades of seconds before fatigue sets in.
It feels like magic........
SORRY FOR THE LONG POST MAN!!!
kari_convention
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90 minutes? man... i can only last for 10+ minutes before i cant feel my left hand....
drummar-buah
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that is why u gotta start slow, to generate the "perfect motions" into your muscles.
the idea is that when u start slow, you don't really burn out that easily, allowing you to execute more perfect strokes with the right technique.
and also, you have to have lots of commitment for this exercise, as well as mental strength, perseverance, willpower, endurance and concentration.
you will find that u may sometimes fall out of beat with the metronome.
don't stop just because you feel fatigue. it's different from the kind of strain u get by using wrong tecnniques. work through this fatigue and work against it. you will find that maybe after another 10min, you won't feel the fatigue anymore. and you will find that you can start off your same practice again the next day with a much better feel, and your stamina will be strengthened.
the idea is that when u start slow, you don't really burn out that easily, allowing you to execute more perfect strokes with the right technique.
and also, you have to have lots of commitment for this exercise, as well as mental strength, perseverance, willpower, endurance and concentration.
you will find that u may sometimes fall out of beat with the metronome.
don't stop just because you feel fatigue. it's different from the kind of strain u get by using wrong tecnniques. work through this fatigue and work against it. you will find that maybe after another 10min, you won't feel the fatigue anymore. and you will find that you can start off your same practice again the next day with a much better feel, and your stamina will be strengthened.
