Need advise on Guitar Settings on Marshall Amp during Jamming

[stagheart]

Hi,

I am using Yamaha electric, TGR series with ZOOM 505 II effects.
Whenever I jam, it's either, the sound very muddy or muffled, muffled as in
I cant really distinguish the notes clearly while on Distortion.

The studio i am using is equipped with Marshall Amps with cab.

Any advise on what settings I can use on the marshall to get a better clarity
on my guitar sound?, Presence settings, treble, etc..

Any advise is appreciated.


Thanks

 

[Breen]

Fundamental fact is probably the equipment your using. Solid state and processors will not give you much cut in a live arrangement. It has it's uses in the studio or home recording but it's hard to get good live sound with such gear. Of course, there are incredible solid state technology, you just have to pay for them. The high end Line 6 stuff for example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkT4tLiH32M

The Marshall your using is probably Solid State tech too.

However!

A great player will sound good in any setting. Satch will sound like him tru your equipment. Buckethead will still shread and sound alright. Brent Mason could probably record something straight through the Marshall.

It's also all in your hands and in your soul that gives you your sound. I suggest you work with what you have and get sounding better with simple gear. If I throw a bad sounding dude quality stuff, he/she may not sound better at all. May even make the quality stuff sound worst.

Close your eyes and feel what you play. Try it. Just play a few notes or progression and hear if you are sounding balls sweatin'.

 

[Whitestrat]

However!

A great player will sound good in any setting. Satch will sound like him tru your equipment. Buckethead will still shread and sound alright. Brent Mason could probably record something straight through the Marshall.

It's also all in your hands and in your soul that gives you your sound. I suggest you work with what you have and get sounding better with simple gear. If I throw a bad sounding dude quality stuff, he/she may not sound better at all. May even make the quality stuff sound worst.

Close your eyes and feel what you play. Try it. Just play a few notes or progression and hear if you are sounding balls sweatin'.

Sorry Breen, but that's not exactly a very helpful post.:???:

I wouldn't put it to any guitarist with a bad setup to sound good. Not even Joe Satriani. All the good players themselves KNOW how to get a good tone, so even with crappy equipment, they'll know how to tweak it to maximise what they can get.

Doesn't matter if it's solid-state, or tube.

So, to the OT, pay attention to 3 key knobs on the Marshall. Mids, Treble and Presence. Bring those up. Significantly. That should help quite a bit. Back off on your bass no matter how tempting it gets to bring it up and chug.

If that still fails, look at the EQ in your zoom. If you got it set up at home, you'll have to EQ it again, with the band while they're playing. It's also possible, JUST possible, that you might be using too much gain.

Remember, the keys to cutting thru are mids and treble.

 

[jmb23]

^+1
i tried this crate blue voodoo combo once and it was kinda muddy and lowered the bass,it helped lower the overall muddiness of the sound.If you play with tons of gain and muting techniques is weak,it will also affect you overall sound and would be hard to hear.so basically

1)stand further away from speaker cab
2)play with the eq
3)learn and adopt good muting techniques
hope this helps

 

[Ratboy]

some simple steps .....

plug the guitar direct to the amp and skip all effects
can you get a good clean tone ?
try the amps built in distortion .... do you like it ?

decide if you want to use your pedal or the amps distortion
if you want to use the pedals distortion
set the amp so that it is clean
running both distortion not recommended till you know what you are doing

try and give us more info

 

[Radius_Vector]

Trash the 505, seriously.

Invest in any amp modelling equipment - line6 stuff is well done, and as was covered earlier, pay close attention the EQ knobs on your amp.

Too much gain = mud too.

 

[Breen]

Sorry Breen, but that's not exactly a very helpful post.:???:

I wouldn't put it to any guitarist with a bad setup to sound good. Not even Joe Satriani. All the good players themselves KNOW how to get a good tone, so even with crappy equipment, they'll know how to tweak it to maximise what they can get.

Wait, what did I say? I meant what you reiterated. Haha nvm.

I agree with it. Billy Gibbons sounds like Billy Gibbons anywhere.

Good pointing out on the EQ work~

 

[Khai72]

Set yr output setting to LINE.

 

[Whitestrat]

Wait, what did I say? I meant what you reiterated. Haha nvm.

No lah... I meant that when the TS was asking about the settings, telling him "it's in the hands" isn't going to help lah... As true as it is, it sounds like "you sound bad because you play bad". Hahahahhaa...

 

[Breen]

Eeeek yes yes I did sound like it, I apologise!

 

[Ang3L]

Eeeek yes yes I did sound like it, I apologise!

RESPECT!!