My Honest Opinions of the recordings heard recently

In_Ya_Face

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I'm both happy and sad to have a local music forum as popular as this one. Happy, because there is a place to meet and interact with local musicians and music lovers. Unhappy, simply cause of the lack of honesty in this place.

For the love of god and liberty...how can you praise 80% of the players here in the soft recordings and etc. One good example being this member called satch...in simple American Idol words of "the" simon cowell. Its appaulling with a capital A , ghastly with a captial G and horrendous with a capital H. There are many honourable mentions i shan't mention, but they are the same reason as to why i watch American Idol. Its hilariously funny.

Of course. There are tons of awesome players here...we all know it and no need to mention them. Lets all be honest and say what you really want to say to these horrible recordings that litter the grounds of this forum. Is praising them by telling them "they rock" and " you like their style" going to make them a better player? Sure, they're young give them a chance you might say...but i think you'd be doing them a better favour by giving them the hurt of truth.

I recently heard the butchering of two classic songs. One by guns and roses and one by deep purple. Which the songs i won't mention and the person covering i won't mention. I really hope i am being discreet...cause i do not wish to embaress the person. I mean...if i were Axl rose or Richie Blackmore...i'd sue him...hell yeah i'd sue.

In the near future, i do hope people can be honest about it, it helps nuture the young players and not give them false hope and faith of sounding like the next guitar god.

Until next time...Judge Judy will see you again.
 
In_Ya_Face said:
I recently heard the butchering of two classic songs. One by guns and roses and one by deep purple. Which the songs i won't mention and the person covering i won't mention. I really hope i am being discreet...cause i do not wish to embaress the person. I mean...if i were Axl rose or Richie Blackmore...i'd sue him...hell yeah i'd sue.

Until next time...Judge Judy will see you again.

Err....maybe you should put your money where you mouth is.

If your idea is to create a new account just to stir things up, that's a very kiddy thing to do. Why not do some good and have a good posting record, then can throw some weight. No one will take you seriously now, since it's your 1st posting. In ya face. :butthead:
 
mikemann said:
In_Ya_Face said:
I recently heard the butchering of two classic songs. One by guns and roses and one by deep purple. Which the songs i won't mention and the person covering i won't mention. I really hope i am being discreet...cause i do not wish to embaress the person. I mean...if i were Axl rose or Richie Blackmore...i'd sue him...hell yeah i'd sue.

Until next time...Judge Judy will see you again.

Err....maybe you should put your money where you mouth is.

If your idea is to create a new account just to stir things up, that's a very kiddy thing to do. Why not do some good and have a good posting record, then can throw some weight. No one will take you seriously now, since it's your 1st posting. In ya face. :butthead:



AHAHAHAHAHAA
 
tsk. This really irks me how you guys like to play heros. But, still you all totally avoided the question. Are the recordings worth the praise you all have thrown. You all know of whom i refer to. If post count, counts for weight, mike mann. Then you must be using your post count to make up for the lack of something.
 
Ok, how do YOU know the people are not sharing their honest opinions on the recordings? If you want to give your honest opinions go ahead, no one is stopping you. Keep in mind you don't have to flame, after all every one has their own taste. Just like how some people despise heavy metal music while some love it. Get what I mean? :D

And if you were talking about my cover of Burn, then thanks for the comment :wink:
 
thanks for being honest. i like that. well, firstly, i dont think u are a new user, i believe u are probably someone who doesnt want his/her name being shown as u type this. to me that isnt honest.(i have a feeling u are actually axl from the other thread)

http://www.soft.com.sg/new/modules....c&t=3657&sid=db9556e4b086d443df23064dcc0af94b

even if someone told me i sucked, it doesnt matter, cos thats gonna make me wanna play even better. true that i am nt a good guitarist. bt at least i am giving things a try. that shows that i am willing to accept cirtism and i am willing to learn from people.

u aint being honest also by saying that u dont wanna mention names of people butchering the songs. i belive u are pointing ur finger at me? on my recent posting or rather, butchered songs such as sweet child and burn?

well, if u read my thread, u would realise that i have nv heard the actual burn recording and what i did was jst a jam. jam, means u play what u feel like. so dont expect me to sound like blackmore.

hw did i butcher sweet child? using guitar to play the vocal lines? or rather me nt sounding like slash in the aspect of tone and playing?

u said u wanna be discreet. if u are trying to be discreet, my name would nt have been mentioned at all. what kind of idiot would nt be able to see that u are talking about me? i jst posted the 2 above mentioned songs within the last week.

u think i feel embarrassed because of what u said? i am sorry because u did nt achieve ur motive of embarassing me in front of all the fellow musicians in SG.

for ur info, u have nt only targeted me in this thread, bt u have targeted the whole soft community calling them liars i belive? what did they do to deserve that?

maybe i did get what i deserved by posting crap music? but them? what did they do to be called liars?

looks like ur nick is pretty cool for ur what u are eh!?

well, since its ur first post, i would like to personally welcome u into soft. remember, i hold no grudge against u as i feel, there is no point, some people like ur stuff, some dont.

oh by the way, since u are the honest fella here, why didnt u give me some good advice when i posted the songs. maybe u can give me some advice nw?



ps. i am nt gonna stop posting stuff jst because of what u said, bt guys, maybe next time we should give some bad comments jst to pacify this fella huh?
 
If you go digging. I have never once left any comments on any of the soft recordings. My expertise is elsewhere, and I don't need to list what my contribution in soft forum, if you being here long enough, you'd know me. I log in almost daily.

It's obvious to me now that you are here for a single goal, which is to create havoc. Thus I end my replies to you here, good luck to you.
 
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sofyan said:
Ok, how do YOU know the people are not sharing their honest opinions on the recordings? If you want to give your honest opinions go ahead, no one is stopping you. Keep in mind you don't have to flame, after all every one has their own taste. Just like how some people despise heavy metal music while some love it. Get what I mean? :D

And if you were talking about my cover of Burn, then thanks for the comment :wink:

But seriouly most of the local recording suck big time......we possible cant use that to get overseas exposure..maybe the bands can do something about it if they are really committed. get it done in some good studios with GOOD ENGINEERS.
 
In_Ya_Face said:
tsk. This really irks me how you guys like to play heros. But, still you all totally avoided the question. Are the recordings worth the praise you all have thrown. You all know of whom i refer to. If post count, counts for weight, mike mann. Then you must be using your post count to make up for the lack of something.

so nw u aint happy with people who have high post counts?

and also, by saying You all know of whom i refer to", so u are nw really pin pointing me eh? what was is about being discreet?

so one moment, pretend to be discreet, next moment, everyone shld knw who u are talking about?
 
Re: Time

.[/quote]But seriouly most of the local recording suck big time......we possible cant use that to get overseas exposure..maybe the bands can do something about it if they are really committed. get it done in some good studios with GOOD ENGINEERS.[/quote]

hey kash, i believve the thread starter wasnt talking about music quality, rather about playing quality.
 
i know i wasn't exactly going to get a warm reception. But, then you can't exactly find fault with me for saying whatever the hell i wish to say. I am surprised you accepted that gracefully satch. I'm not dogging on you as a person or whatso ever. I just sense a false pretence in the people's opinions here about the posted clips.

I must say you have a "D" in humor since it was obvious i was pointing out at you in the 2nd last paragraph, even a blind man could have felt it. No, sofyan i wasn't talking about your burn. Satch's clip here saved your ass from being knighted by me. I won't bother trying to defend myself by your post on making me Doctor Evil here. I highly expect many here to join your bandwagon.

In regard to your quote about burn. I don't think listening to blackmore playing it, will make your playing any more listenable on it.

Those who agree with me will not post here i am sure. But then again, i'm like Ghandi...i walk alone.

Judge Judy
 
In_Ya_Face said:
i know i wasn't exactly going to get a warm reception. But, then you can't exactly find fault with me for saying whatever the hell i wish to say. I am surprised you accepted that gracefully satch. I'm not dogging on you as a person or whatso ever. I just sense a false pretence in the people's opinions here about the posted clips.

I must say you have a "D" in humor since it was obvious i was pointing out at you in the 2nd last paragraph, even a blind man could have felt it. No, sofyan i wasn't talking about your burn. Satch's clip here saved your ass from being knighted by me. I won't bother trying to defend myself by your post on making me Doctor Evil here. I highly expect many here to join your bandwagon.

In regard to your quote about burn. I don't think listening to blackmore playing it, will make your playing any more listenable on it.

Those who agree with me will not post here i am sure. But then again, i'm like Ghandi...i walk alone.

Judge Judy

well, i dont see why i should be angry with u or anything? maybe listening to blackmore wouldnt help, yea, thats true, blackmore is a hero in his own right.

i dont see why those that agree with u wont post. they will prolly say a +1 to u.

u are probably saying that jst because thats the only way for u to win cos nt many people might knw the contents of this thread and might nt even read it, let alone post. change the thread title to satch sucks. lets see hw that goes.

by the way, u dont feel welcomed? well, i personally welcomed u here, even though u attacked me. u should really feel welcomed, or maybe u dont feel welcomed cos u jst dont like me at all? cos if u wanted to attack the level of playing here, my name would nt have to be mentioned, jst a mention of playing would have been enough.

if u are like ghandi, u would spread love, nt hate, get ur facts right before posting dude. by the way, ghandi wasnt walking alone, he had followers, loads of em, and people actually liked him and respected him.

btw, i dont see humour in ur post. i mean,u said u wanted to be discreet, and i pointed out the obvious, so i guess u're covering up for urself?

lots of love,

satch
 
In_Ya_Face said:
Satch's clip here saved your ass from being knighted by me.

Huh? What do you mean by knighted by you. Go ahead dude i dont mind being knighted lol :lol: . I'm sure when you make a recording, you can play it in the same standard as the original as well. Regardless of how long you've been learning or what gear you have. Maybe you should show us how 'Sweet Child Of Mine' or 'Burn' should be covered. 8)[/i]
 
K i usually dun post, but i believe i have to say something.

In Ya Face, i dun really get what you are driving at dude. Comments are comments. A good comment can never change the music. If the music is bad, so be it. But personally i feel that some of the stuff posted are pretty listenable. Butchered is a very strong word to use dude.

Not matter what other pple say, at the end of the day, if it sounds bad, the musician himself will know it. U dun need pple to tell u u suck. U compare and u will know u suck. But good comments keep u going on, to improve on whatever u are doing. Dun expect "give it up la dude, u are bound to fail" to be very inspirational. Ok maybe it works for some. But not for everyone.

One thing u are right, probably everyone shldnt be saying good stuff or whatever. We need to be critical and pinpoint the good and bad. Constructive criticism is key here.

Personally i can understand how u feel. I've got my own band and originals and when i let my friends listen they'd go "yeah tt's good". But i know part of them dun really like it and it's just to spur me on. That's why i'm still holding back and have not posted on soft for pple to listen. It's still not good enough to me.

Anyways, i feel that it's ur tone that they are more concerned with.
 
um, james, in case u see this, pls dont close it yet. i wanna see his reply.

i am nt offended or anything so no need to close yet.

thanks.
 
Everybody's entitled to their own opinions and comments dude, and I guess in the scenario when it's gonna make some people unhappy, we'd best keep them to ourselves. Even being a professional player doesnt give you the right to tell people what to say as far as their comments about other people's work is concerned. If it's really a strain on your ears as you've made it out to be, the best option is just not to download any of the works of your fellow musicians here. It's really simple, you see?
 
I agree with Chang.

However, I'd want to add that I see no wrong in a cosy support group (IYF, call it dishonest or whatever you like) where everybody is giving each other high fives and pats on the back irregardless of the music produced. Nobody ever suffered from being "over-encouraged" and to the young musician's ego (and old for that matter) this does wonders that will keep him or her plugging away at that instrument through years of 'sucking' until they finally get good. And I wouldn't say that constructive criticism is totally absent - I've seen a lot of good posts with recommendations.

P.S. If you want to "commit the crime of the century" and create a new anonymous account to start a flame war, it's best that you don't use very unique words in your posts and an easily identifiable punctuation style. It really irks me....when people do that. ;)
 
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