Metal Sticks for practice ?
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twiztedjoker
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If you've no qualms about destroying your kit then yeah, go ahead! On the plus side, after years of "metalstick" drumming, you will be granted incomprehensible forearm and bicep power and at the next soft drum xchange you can display your 1337z0r drum awesome owningness and teach all of us how to break skins in a single hit. Maybe you'll go into the Guinness Book Of Records :0
ioaka
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or weapons! hahahah!
just my thoughts in jest; i wonder what would happen if you try and bring it into the airport, claiming that you wanna practice your chops on your flight?
honestly the possibility of getting arrested and missing your flight seems fearfully real, in today's paranoid times =P
just my thoughts in jest; i wonder what would happen if you try and bring it into the airport, claiming that you wanna practice your chops on your flight?
honestly the possibility of getting arrested and missing your flight seems fearfully real, in today's paranoid times =P
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RudimentalDrummer
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Hi i'm a newbie entry drummer, i saw some metal drumsticks at Ranking, Vater brand if i'm not wrong. Do u guys tink its good to get 1 of those to practice ?
Metal sticks are good: - If -
(1) You use hit them on a Pillow – to let out frustration.
(2) You bring them out(put them in your bag as a weapon) – can still get away with it
(3) You bring it to your Drum_lessons & use it on your Instructor’s Expensive Kit
(4) You try it on your Friend’s Kit
(5) Show off to Non-female non-drummers (they will think wah you’re a killer drummer).
And – don’t believe a word I say here, you will be in trouble …Kekekeke !
PS: - I ever use it when we book a Studio for practice last time....
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nefariousgrooves
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I heard they are use to build strength and endurance, eg: long gigs, need alot of endurance"
But don't think you want to use it on the drumset though. lol.
RD : LOL, did anything happen to the drum ?!
But don't think you want to use it on the drumset though. lol.
RD : LOL, did anything happen to the drum ?!
ioaka
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!!!!
O_O
ouch for the drums man! But honestly i would have paid to be there when it happened! Hahaha!
cheers,
Joash
Haha.. Eric bro, I think using metal sticks is literally killer drummer, a drummer who kills drums!
Don't DON't ever try metal sticks on your drumset! You do not want to know what happen to it. Maybe you can consider practicing rudiments on a drumpad, but imo metal sticks are for show or give your fellow drumming friend as a gift.
You will not be a killer drummer.. You'll be a drum killer!!! I don't personally use metal sticks to practice. I use the sticks i always use so i can get used to it. But i heard that once you switch from practicing with metal sticks to normal lighter ones, you'll be quite amazed at how fast you can go. I HEARD only.
not tureee really. i feel that practicing with a heavier stick will throw u off. the strength needed to move a heavier stick will be different from a lighter stick. the rebound will be incredibly different as well.
i recommend practicing with ur own stick, and alternate between soft and hard surfaces. soft surfaces will train ur muscles and hard surfaces will train ur rebound control. always remember to stay loose and relaxed. start off at a speed that ur comfortable at then slowly move up in speed. once u get tense, slow it back down. tension will kill your sound, bad sound = bad drummer.
ur looking for eveness of sound and eveness of strokes. remember speed is the product of accuracy and consistency. never go for speed, always go for the above. if ur unconsistent when ur fast, u'll like like a train wreck and not a train, hence there is no point.
the V. always keep ur sticks in a V, that way ur hitting a singular spot. this will focus ur sound. that said sometimes u want an uneven sound so practice with ur sticks at diff parts of the drum. however i'm sure u can already do tht, keeping the V is the hard part.
stick height.
a way to regulate the strength of ur hits is too make sure ur stick peak at the same height.
practice everyday.
enjoy urself
i recommend practicing with ur own stick, and alternate between soft and hard surfaces. soft surfaces will train ur muscles and hard surfaces will train ur rebound control. always remember to stay loose and relaxed. start off at a speed that ur comfortable at then slowly move up in speed. once u get tense, slow it back down. tension will kill your sound, bad sound = bad drummer.
ur looking for eveness of sound and eveness of strokes. remember speed is the product of accuracy and consistency. never go for speed, always go for the above. if ur unconsistent when ur fast, u'll like like a train wreck and not a train, hence there is no point.
the V. always keep ur sticks in a V, that way ur hitting a singular spot. this will focus ur sound. that said sometimes u want an uneven sound so practice with ur sticks at diff parts of the drum. however i'm sure u can already do tht, keeping the V is the hard part.
stick height.
a way to regulate the strength of ur hits is too make sure ur stick peak at the same height.
practice everyday.
enjoy urself
malmbas
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Hi guys,
The idea of practicing with metal sticks, I think, is kinda counter-productive.
You'd only use them inorder to build up your muscles for strength and endurance, but in order to have speed as well you also need your smaller faster twitching muscles. Therefore, in order to play with speed and power you need both small muscles and big muscles.
If you practice with really heavy sticks you'll bulk up the small muscles and therefore sacrifice speed. As muscles get bigger and stronger, they also get slower.
The only real answer is to practice with the stick you usually play with for longer periods of time.
It's the same principal as people going to the gym. Guys who want to bulk up do small amounts of reps with huge weights, where as tri-athletes etc... will do much longer sets with lighter weights. So you get strength without sacrificing speed.
Hope this helps
The idea of practicing with metal sticks, I think, is kinda counter-productive.
You'd only use them inorder to build up your muscles for strength and endurance, but in order to have speed as well you also need your smaller faster twitching muscles. Therefore, in order to play with speed and power you need both small muscles and big muscles.
If you practice with really heavy sticks you'll bulk up the small muscles and therefore sacrifice speed. As muscles get bigger and stronger, they also get slower.
The only real answer is to practice with the stick you usually play with for longer periods of time.
It's the same principal as people going to the gym. Guys who want to bulk up do small amounts of reps with huge weights, where as tri-athletes etc... will do much longer sets with lighter weights. So you get strength without sacrificing speed.
Hope this helps
haha...i guess everyone already said what i had in mind.
yea just use regular sticks...i don't see any point in using metal sticks on drum sets because the weight difference is gonna throw your playing off, plus when you finish a gig you can'tthrow them to the crowd without killing someone..
yea just use regular sticks...i don't see any point in using metal sticks on drum sets because the weight difference is gonna throw your playing off, plus when you finish a gig you can'tthrow them to the crowd without killing someone..
DullTheater
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metal sticks???
nahh.. dont waste your money on them.. serious..
go for the traditional ones lah... the wooden drumsticks.. why not..
using metal sticks during drumming wont spoil your drums, unless if you hit at the rims ah..
actualie the metal sticks will hurt your cymbals, if not, destroy..
you wudnt want to destroy something that you paid far more expensive then your sticks dont you....
furthermore, personally to me, when i play the metal sticks, i can sumtimes feel the kind of vibrations whereby 2 metals hits together.. and i dont like it at all....
the onli metal sticks that are worth buying and safe to play wif are AHEAD drumsticks, altho they are not 100% metal ah..., and of cos if you got $60 ~ $80 to spare...
if youre thinking of using them as weight training, why dont you get wooden drumsticks but of different model, say if you wanna play 7A, practice wif 5B.... heeh heheh.. abit extreme i must say, but you get my point...
but i tend to agree wif mark, practice wif your own sticks ah.. dont need to keep opn changing sticks in hopes of getting more power..
the more you practice wif your own sticks, the more comfortable you are wif them, the more you know how to control them....
i use to keep on using Mike Portnoy's sticks, but they are light and thin.. sumtimes i lose grip... when i change to trad 5A, well, onli different is, i can grip better ah....
but now i'm using 5B Vater Extreme Power... initially, a lil hard ah... grips wise, control wise.. but once you get the hang of it, it'll be like any other sticks... hahahaha
just keep on practicing using your own sticks...
dont even bother to think about buying the metal sticks...
well, unless if you
a) wanna destroy your cymbals
b) want to buy and frame it up
c) wanna buy as a gift
d) wanna be a poser and pose in front of girls... hahahah
just my many many cents worth...
nahh.. dont waste your money on them.. serious..
go for the traditional ones lah... the wooden drumsticks.. why not..
using metal sticks during drumming wont spoil your drums, unless if you hit at the rims ah..
actualie the metal sticks will hurt your cymbals, if not, destroy..
you wudnt want to destroy something that you paid far more expensive then your sticks dont you....
furthermore, personally to me, when i play the metal sticks, i can sumtimes feel the kind of vibrations whereby 2 metals hits together.. and i dont like it at all....
the onli metal sticks that are worth buying and safe to play wif are AHEAD drumsticks, altho they are not 100% metal ah..., and of cos if you got $60 ~ $80 to spare...
if youre thinking of using them as weight training, why dont you get wooden drumsticks but of different model, say if you wanna play 7A, practice wif 5B.... heeh heheh.. abit extreme i must say, but you get my point...
but i tend to agree wif mark, practice wif your own sticks ah.. dont need to keep opn changing sticks in hopes of getting more power..
the more you practice wif your own sticks, the more comfortable you are wif them, the more you know how to control them....
i use to keep on using Mike Portnoy's sticks, but they are light and thin.. sumtimes i lose grip... when i change to trad 5A, well, onli different is, i can grip better ah....
but now i'm using 5B Vater Extreme Power... initially, a lil hard ah... grips wise, control wise.. but once you get the hang of it, it'll be like any other sticks... hahahaha
just keep on practicing using your own sticks...
dont even bother to think about buying the metal sticks...
well, unless if you
a) wanna destroy your cymbals
b) want to buy and frame it up
c) wanna buy as a gift
d) wanna be a poser and pose in front of girls... hahahah
just my many many cents worth...
Composer of Requiems
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The metal sticks from sweelee have one very nice thing though... if you hit it against a surface and let it rebound into the air the stick will actually ring out. Maybe can drill holes through the stick, suspend it by a string and use as a chime.
