Mesa Dual Recto

[six-string]

i tweaked the amp for hours mang but found it to be too loose sounding for metal. Tried it with a clean boost from a TS9 to tighten up the tone but its still too loose mang. When the power was switched to "bold" it helped just a teeny bit, but its still there. The buzziness of the distortion turned me off too. Couldnt find a good liquidy lead tone from it.

Since im playing teh brootalz, the apparent looseness and buzziness(not saturation) of the distortion doesnt help at all, especially when it comes to triplet chugging, its like spongy E notes if you get what i mean

How now brown cow?

thanks champ

 

[subversion]

what you relate here is one of the reasons i don't fancy this amp. IMO people revere the production tone of MESA amps in recordings (after so much other electronic magic is added) but wait till they hear it in person. to be fair to the product, there are people out there who like this kinda tone...

for some brutal assault in terms of saturation, i'd say you are better off with PEAVEY's 5150/ 6505

 

[ShredCow]

How now brown cow?

Get. It. Modded.

Check it up - do the Mesa chuggers have it stock? Or do they mod it?

I'm guessing by now, you should have an idea whether your stock amp can attain what tones... so in order to get what it can't get when stock... zhnggggg it!

 

[unsane]

sell it off to me mate

 

[Hydesg]

lower your bass

 

[six-string]

for some brutal assault in terms of saturation, i'd say you are better off with PEAVEY's 5150/ 6505

I have that amp mang, but from what i've heard its balls to the walls when 5150 and rectos are quad tracked. Thats what im trying to do in my recordings.

 

[Ized]

mesas have the loose bowel like sound. Thats why they sound huge... To be honest i'll did take the lonestar and stiletto over the dual recto anytime.

most of the artistes who use mesas regularly have theirs modded. Metallica's awesome tone comes from a mix of parametric equalizing(james would scoop the mids with furnans) and a plethora of pedals (kirk uses a tubescreamer and a rat for early recordings)

 

[Pedal-itis]

i sorely disagree.... in my opinion the Mesa Dual Recto i have at home (fitted with Ruby tubes) is a great amp for metal and for many other genre's. i can get it tight if i want and loose if i choose. it is not an easy amp to work out but when you've found that CHUGGA. then youre set man. its an awesome amp LIVE and Studio... ive tried the 2 channel hub4thailand has (which is with me now cause im recording) and the 3 channel i have (retubing with randolf). their both awesome, and its a matter of tweaking and effort getting up to ya liking. the cab also makes a big difference

 

[Ized]

the Mesa Dual Recto i have at home (fitted with Ruby tubes)

the cab also makes a big difference

Ah. Still a matter of factors, and your Mesa isn't stock.

Well lets just wait for Goose to come in and have his say on Mesas.....i remember him once commenting on the way some artistes mod their mesas to make them suitable for live use/recordings.

 

[trianglebiscuit]

what are your settings now?

 

[rackenstein]

got to be careful with the presence and gain
my setting were between 11-1 o'clock,bold,silicon diode & set to el34 on both 3 chnl & 2 chnl rectifiers
i beleive those rubys is what mesa using now in their amps
its love & hate thing with this head

 

[Pedal-itis]

well...honestly, alot of what we all have isnt stock. from modded ts's, to modded delays to modded blah blah blah... i guess what all these makers do, from ibanez to mesa boogie gives us a general basic of what the masses like, then... you take it, and mod it to your personal liking, like everything else you own. .........or maybe i just like to mod things...... .....(actually get things modded cause electronics aint my game)

 

[Grain]

hola

its all about getting used to the amp. i faced the same problem too. but i am loving the amp day by day. so far the only problems i hv is maintenance. Mesa dont have dealer here in Singapore n repairing it will cost a bomb. nearest i heard is Thailand.

 

[six-string]

settings? well im still trying to find some decent settings mang, one that doesnt sound liek a mushy mess.

to be honest mang grain i think you're right mr grain, im so used to my tight sounding 5150, that the loose sound from the recto turns me off. But i've yet to mix both 5150 and recto in a recording situation we'll see how that turns out.

or maybe i shoulda gotten a Mark IV instead, those are tightass, but though too much in the midrange for my lieking, liek honky. from what ive heard anyway.

 

[leecs]

Take your time tweaking... Its playing thru 2x12 or 4x12? what brand of speakers are inside? they all contribute to tones.

 

[Ized]

5150s are one of the better tighter-sounding amps stock. However the lead channel has too much of that high end sizzle but it can be eq-ed out or smoothened by using a ts type pedal with the highs rolled off.

 

[trianglebiscuit]

rectos are saggy, lots of heavy bottom em umph.

im the opposite of you, when i moved to my soldano from a f-30, i couldnt get used to the lack of low end girth.

try cutting off the presence, boost the mids, bass around 9 o'clock and treble at noon. gain set to taste below 12 and slam it with your ts-9.

 

[ungauged]

Honestly I understand what you're going through cos when I first got my Recto from Rackenstein and brought it home I was abit disappointed. Somehow the expectation of it to be one mean ass metalish sounding amp turns wrong. But I was wrong.............

I use to play it on a Marshall AVT 1x12 cab with celestions but it sounded too bassy. I spent a lot of time tweaking it but I was still disappointed. It was till I got a Mesa recto 2x12 cab did I realize the true sound of the beast. It still needed a lot of tweaking to get the right sound but I'm definitely impressed with it. And one important thing... Mesa's are best played at around the 12 o'clock on the volume knob if not it's gonna sound rather flat.

By the way, is your rectifier the old 2 channel or new 3 channel? I've read on various forums that the new 3 channel needs alot of time and patience to get the right tone. And from my experience, Mesa's sound great when recording and usually sound better compared to when you're listening to it live.

Here is a demo of my recto 2 channel on vintage channel. Not a metal sound but I've found it very versatile for a lot of music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS-X1ss4Gzc

Volume - 9 o'clock, presence - 12 o'clock, bass - 10 o'clock, mid - 12, treble - 12, gain - 12.

The thing about this amp is that no matter how much gain you put in, it doesn't sound too noisy or messy.

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

heh, the first clean melody, is that a tune from beyond?

 

[ungauged]

Yes... Beyond! haha.... the best chinese band ever!