manners while moshing aka moshing for dummies *sticky please*

alexisonfire

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after being at limesonicboom @ sentosa ytd. i feel that we should start a thread to remind people what to do/what not to do when enjoying a gig.

obviously people who sit down spoils the fun. but, moshing like monkeys are more annoying.

below is an article i've found recently by Jon Ruggerio. http://media.www.bgnews.com/media/s...Mind-Your.Manners.While.Moshing-2950274.shtml

**A few weeks ago, I went to a fantastic punk/ska show where I got caught in a mosh pit - Scott Ian would be proud.

While getting pummeled by all sorts of big, sweaty dudes whose idea of dancing is punching everyone in a 15-foot radius, I got to thinking about the proper etiquette for being in a mosh pit. So, I decided to help out my fellow moshers in any future thrashings they'll be involved in.

How, might you ask? By writing a book, of course. (Because all musicians love and have the ability to read, right?) Here's a taste of my new book, "Losing Your Teeth the Fun Way: Jon's Guide to Moshing":

Watch out for your three main kinds of moshers:

THE DESTROYER - This guy does one thing and one thing only: shove. Imagine a shark moving through a mosh pit, shoving everyone in his path, just waiting for someone to pick a fight with him. Now, imagine that shark as a big, bald-headed human with an evil look on his face, and that's your first kind of mosher.

CRAZY ARMS MCGEE - Flailing his arms wildly as if Oprah just gave him a new car, we can witness the second kind of mosher. This guy has no style, no rhythm and, apparently, no courtesy for his fellow moshers.

NEW KIDS ON THE MOSH - This is the new-to-the-game thrasher who still thinks he's at an eighth-grade Reel Big Fish concert. He'll normally stay out of your way unless a song he might actually like comes on. That's when he evolves into Disco Stu; he skanks and attempts to dance like it's his job. Stay away from these kids; they become prime targets for the other two guys.

Know when to mosh:

This is a pretty basic one. Moshing, as any pure mosher will tell you, is an art form. You must know how to, and, more importantly, when to do it. For instance, if you see any sort of metal rock show, moshing is highly encouraged. In fact, you'll get the crap kicked out of you anyway if you aren't in the mosh (moshing's "darned if you do, darned if you don't" principle, if you will). Not all music genres are prime for moshing. For instance, if you were to go to a Rick Springfield or Britney Spears show (whatever the heck it is kids listen to these days), punching out little girls and creepy older men isn't the best behavior. Save your child and pedophile beatings for your own home.

Watch out for dropped items:

If anyone drops anything, make sure to pick it up for them. And, yes, things will be dropped. Glasses fall, hats get lost, teeth and arms get kicked around; I've seen it a million times. So, just be courteous: Whenever a song ends, try to look around and make sure you don't step on any cell phones, fingers or eyeballs. Those things just fly out everywhere.

So, fellow thrashers, make sure to follow these guidelines to make sure, in the future, when you're kicking the ever-loving crap out of people you don't know, you can have as much fun as possible.
 
if u see some1 fall, help the person up. not kick his face/butt or walk over him/her

dun anyhow try to be cute to punch,elbow peoples' face on purpose. if desired to, go join thai boxing
 
do not grope the girls when they crowd surf. no grabbing of butts/boobs/whatever. think this is pretty important since i believe no guy would wnat a girl they know to be groped and taken advantage of when they are at a gig.
 
bro,

so far i've seen very little females who listen to metal. and to top it off..even fewer girls who listen to metal crowdsurf :(

cheers
 
heh, we can talk till the righteous become left handed, those who do kungfu moshing will still do.

We can talk, but they wont stop. Give it another 5 years, and we look back, the same thing will still be in existant

those who can read and surf the forum might become responsible mosher, and those who dont surf by or read, will still kungfu! Haaaaaa yatttttttttt!

might as well as the bands to nag the grand idea before they start the show. Now we here talk, no use one. Coz the real kungfu men prolly dont read here or bother to care
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Next time go see show, will, confirm, chop plus stamp, same thing happen, then come back here, we go over the same thing again
 
people shouldnt we waving their arms and shit man. crazy bastards. waht happened to normal moshing! haha
 
for me..an ideal way to show that ur enjoying the show is to headbang..


put ur arms ard the next persons shoulders..form a human chain..HEADBANG AWAY!!!:twisted:
 
those peeps are crazy la. Only Moshcrewsg help people up when they are down man. Or shall we all join them and whack those retarded-moshers-who-don't-care-about-others ? :)
 
those peeps are crazy la. Only Moshcrewsg help people up when they are down man. Or shall we all join them and whack those retarded-moshers-who-don't-care-about-others ? :)

we really cant do anything about these crazy moshers... wait until they get wacked in a moshpit themselves then they will learn their lesson. unless their sick people who get turned on by pain??
 
haha. moshing is fine for me, but it has to depend on what songs are playing. moshing to grindcore is fine imo, but to indie its... funny. :p
 
Moshing Etiquette 101

Coming from old town or maybe it's just the etiquette we practised back in the old days, moshing used to be the expression of your feelings (emo/hardcore kids and any emotionally stirring music), having fun(punks, psychobillys),taking pride in your subculture(skinheads, rudeboys) or just trying to be part of the crowd(your now present indie kids and whatnot), seems blurred with the uncommon douche bag attitude.

Being in the pit during the sonic lime bang fest, for which bands i was slugging out i'd prefer to tell but i noted the very odd and weird division of my scene not your scene atmosphere. Being first that there was no sight of any kids running around in circles and making a hell of an impression other than the usually new kids pushing each other around in the pit would make rick james proud to start groping young men. Secondly, where was the usual, let's thrash this set away but only to have a disappointing array kids with serious ADD problems(attention deficit disorder, go look it up.) staying for no more than 30 seconds. Thirdly, during the ultra funny but ultra masculine kung-fu dances, where's the 'please take a queue number' short waits but only to find embarassing long glances into the crowd of 'who's turn is it again?'

Comon people, where's the only passion of going to a gig/festival and just strutting out yer stuff no matter which bunch of insane pit antics are appearing. It's time to stop the shove your best friend mosh antics which always leads to a fight some how or another and start running in circles which i presume might lead to a safer and happier pit environment. It's time to leave your spartan attitude at home and bring yourself to participating with each other no matter which band/scene/whatever is going on. If the pits start skanking, get your friend and groove out to the music. If you don't know how to, just ask any patron of the pit cause i am sure they're give you a helping hand cause one more person in the pit equals to 10% more fun.

And this is for the frequent high-fliers who just love to show off those sexy tightie-whitties, please note when it's time to get the person whose holding on to your soft buttcheeks to let you down before you decide to face-plant the floor. With that, also do note when your moving closer to the gates of hell where serious bruce lee impersonators are slugging out spin-kicks, cause you just might get that roundhouse kick to the face. Stay away from getting injured and most importantly, consider the safety of others around you. If your a serious backpacker with extra baggage (it's just a nice way of saying fat), note where the little guy sections are cause you don't want to have your butt wedged into some poor lad's choppers. And for the people who are catching these aerial acrobats, don't drop them like bricks leading to a very funny but very painful face plant. Get people to hold him/her/them up and slowly bring them down. And for the men, please if there are female crowd-surfers, please place your light saber back in the holder and be a gentleman, and maybe who knows, you might get princess leia at the end of the day.

For the karate kids, although the golden rule is to never hurt anyone in the pit but slug out all your angst in the pit, be aware of the people around you. Do not just decide to let loose that dropkick with people around you. Wait your turn before you throw out those capoeira kicks and boxing punches. Let others have a go at showing off those mad skills so remember not to take to too much time showing off those boring moves. Watch out for Mr. Rey Mysterio too.

For those drunk junkies, please consider the direction which the pit is occuring. Don't be a jackass and decide to go against the current cause you will get pulverized.Hopefully by one of those backpacking high-fliers. And please pick the guy up before trampling on him like animals during a stampede.

Lastly, if you unintentionally hit someone like I have many many times before. Aid him out of the pit and apologize profusely. If he knows the etiquette, he'll accept that apology, and for those who don't accept the apology, well you could take that matter elsewhere but the pit.

Mosh pits are sanctuaries for adrenaline fueled excitement, freedom of expression and just a place to feel connected with the band and the people in your music scene. Doesn't matter what's happening, just hit the pit and join in the fun. And please kick that douche bag out before he stinks the place!


Stay safe and have fun,

Circle pitting, slam dancing, wrecking, skanking, stage diving(with precaution), crowd surfing(what he said!), boogie-boarding(come on guys, municipal waste?), Hardcore Dancing, Head-Banging, Po-going, 2-stepping and Push-dancing(god, i hope this stops soon!)

Kris "2 Step" John
(my friends call me The Step, Steppy McStepperson, Tu-Step and just Broseph)
 
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personally, i would crowdsurf if guys didn't take advantage of girls who did it. but that is only if i'm not attached.

but since i am, i won't. even if the guys didn't take advantage, there'll still be incidents where guys accidently grope of something. boyfriend won't be too happy about that. =)
 
nice words...


but i dun think any of the wannabes will learn.
maybe till they 'declare' themselves big bros bla bla then they will start to...


i miss those era when i was like a teen moshing wif big guys during hardcore gigs last time.
yeah i fell down a few time but there is always a hand pulling me up!

now... everytime i see ppl mosh. i wanna join in but i dun feel the spirit, the joy anymore after watching a few bruce lee and ninja turtles flying ard...
i dun mind getting hurt but if its on purpose i'll do revenge
nah... i'm getting old


i just hope 1 day the posers dun kill anyone... tat might be the end of local gigs
 
bro portsofindia, the problem with these d*ckheads is they never really grew up in a scene, they just watched 600 Lamb of God and Caliban videos before attending their first show.

I remember when the girl went down, a few of us at the front were thinking "oh ****, that's the end of everything."
 
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Well then again, you should never deny anyone education. We need to teach the young thrashers on the etiquette. That's how I picked it up. So now it's up to us, the more experience figure heads of the pits of destruction to show the young padawans how it's done.

Well i got that same feeling too. But the 2 girls po-going was kinda hawt. Sorry but yeah, i had to say it.
 
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Those of you who keep suggesting, recommending, ammending on the act of moshing as we know it: So you're the final authority?

Some fun-loving guys start something fun, you join in, find out it's not for you, then you complain?

Moshing isn't a cultured act. It's definitely not a pleasant sight for the pleasant person, only a visual depiction of wild teenagers having kicks out of modern music. So if you're a pleasant person, stop ruining the unpleasant.
 
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