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homer

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Im a guitar player. I used to think that rap music is crap. i mean seriously. All the boasting, topics bout girls and shit.
But after talkin to some friends who are into the genre, i realised that a lot of rap music make a lot of sense. sadly those are the ones that don't get enough commercial support. I felt that rap music might be the most suitable for detailed story-telling in music. what do u guys think?
 
i think.... your title and your post like tak kena... no connection... keke

but well, +1 to you. most of the commercial rap you hear on the radio is just... (c)rap anyway. punk planet has been covering the political rap scene for ages already...
 
Its all about venting your anger

Most of the old sch rappers sang about opression, ghetto lifestlye, wanting world peace, racism etc.

I thought nowadays those kind called RnB?

If you compare the old rap and today's 'rap', there's a HUGE difference man..stlye wise also change
 
wad're you guys talking about man?
rap's great.
the best thing to club to. just get's a lil boring for
leisure listening sometimes. no overkill.
 
haha sorry for the stupid subject title. yeah thats what im talkin about. A lot of people nwadays think that rap music is bullshit cos it is all crafted to suit the commercial appeal to the masses. Are there more of those "realer" rappers here in sg?
 
yeah I'm trying to learn to rap from some of the new jacks baby....

watch out for my embarassing escapes real ssoon... :lol:

I'm not really into rap but I tot Jay_Z's fade to black and beastie boys right to party are pretty good s*** ....

hollar baby...
 
As the saying goes.
Different strokes for different folks.

For example.
I think that alot of rap music is just plain bad.
This includes everyone from Tupac to 50 Cent.
I cannot stand the entire pretense from the way everything is phrased, I just dislike it.
I can stand british rap like Atmosphere and The Streets though, though the way things are phrased also irks me.

Well, there's my opinion, I dislike alot of rap.
 
the market now for raps u see in the HIP HOP COUNTDOWN at mtv boasts about rappers having lots of money and showing it off... that's it's all about..

i dunno the history bout raps but i guess the old ones should be off the hook.. ya know what im sayin?

but like for every human being, everyone should have their own cup of tea. Rap's just not for me.

yay it rhymes!
 
I am someone who has touched based with the SG hiphop scene. So I think I should share my thoughts in this...

I used to think that Rap is Crap too. So it was with more of an intention to shock when I joined a rap competition organised by Beats Society called Platform 6 (got top 5). That's pretty much how I got into the scene.

From the very first rap gig that I actually caught thereafter, I realised that rap is actually a style of poetry to a rhythm (much like Slam Poetry).

Seriously, the kind of stuff that the best in SG has to offer are mindblowing. It was then that I realised hiphop music has a lot more to offer than I first thought. So I stayed in the scene just to learn the ropes and technicalities. I learned about the essence of rhymes and things like "multies" and "flow". I learned how to write with depth. I also learned how to perform without a band backing you up; to BE the band essentially.

There is a lot of things that hiphop can teach the rock scene. Lyrics for example. I can safely say that I cannot think of any famous rap-rock artists out there who can hold a candle next to the lyrical competence of some of the people we have here in Singapore, and that is an unbias opinion. The real rap-rock lyricists I can think of are Zach D from RATM and Mike Shinoda of LP/Fort Minor, and these two guys come from a rap/hiphop background to begin with.

These are also the people who are slouched over the PC or Mac over a beat or a loop, listening to their stuff over budget "monitor speakers" that most of the people would just term off as "crap". But, when you are not incomed by the thousands you will realised that your ONLY resources are "crap" stuff, so you just have to make do with them.

Ok, so maybe about 80% of the people in the hiphop scene are subpar. But there are two note worthy rap collectives that I personally know that can boast quality (three if you count Beats Society, but they are more inclined to the commercial end of things). They are:

- Divine Aura (though they are no longer as active. I learned how to write better because of them).

- XS.1 collective (recently out with an album. Lyricists and poets, through and through).

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I would like to say this as well:

Maybe cos it's just a matter of different tastes, so I think this is more a personal frustration. But I am rather disappointed by the apathy that each genre show over the other. I keep telling my hiphop peers to just look out for a gig in the "rock scene" that claims to take in any genre and just steal the stage, and prove their worth.

Also, it is through a rock environment that you can really learn how to excite and constantly push yourself to think of ways to encapsulate proper showmanship. Not having a band doesn't mean you have to be boring. But it forces you to stay interesting.

Unfortunately, noone bothered.They are just too afraid that they will be booed for being "hiphop". And I can understand the fear. Cos when you mention the word "hiphop", the idea of blingblings and baggy pants, gangs and guns, and words like "n****r" and "b***h" comes to mind. It doesn't help that every now and then I see people posting about hiphop being crap and stuff on this very forum.

I am also watching so many rock bands incorporating rap into their music, but many of them are not really learning or studying about the technicalities and essence of a good rap lyrics. Simply cos they don't listen to rap to begin with. Again, here is an example of staying ignorant cos you are misinformed about the genre and scene and just don't have the desire to go back to the roots of what makes rap good.

To me if you are true supporter of local music, you give support and pave the way to LOCAL MUSIC, irregardless of genre.

To sum up my frustation on this, I like to quote from a song by X'Scapists (who is from the XS.1 Collective). It's called "Trajik Kingdom":

"We put our hearts and our minds from the pen to the paper.
But nobody gives a s**t so we turned into vapour.
We put our words and our verse from the mic to the speaker
But nobody's listening so we turned into vapour."

My cents added up to a million.
 
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