Korg Triton
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Cheez
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I think the factory sounds are like that. It appears that tweaking and programming is the way to get the sound you like.
In fact, I find all the Korg Triton series and above to be about the same - Karma engine or not. Even with the Oasys - looks great, but the sound is build on the same engine.
In fact, I find all the Korg Triton series and above to be about the same - Karma engine or not. Even with the Oasys - looks great, but the sound is build on the same engine.
pf
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Hey, I have the same problem.....I bought my CVP301 and the sounds sucks when I play it at home. But the one I use in my school sounds fab!!! My teacher says I have to tweak the reverb, echo, etc but I seem to get it sound worse!!
Or maybe it's the fact that I'm a girl....just cant get the gadgets to work probably....
Or maybe it's the fact that I'm a girl....just cant get the gadgets to work probably....
However, I can move posts :smt038
bongman
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... side track
Talking about Korg Triton, I think when it was release in 1999,
probably it was the best workstation in town but right now
with Yamaha Motif ES and XS; maybe the functionality of Triton
is been taken over by other models.
Anyway, sounds are still the main priority when buying a synth.
I think if we are doing serious music sequencing, using a computer
may be the ideal situation.
cannot delete post, then delete the contents mah...
Talking about Korg Triton, I think when it was release in 1999,
probably it was the best workstation in town but right now
with Yamaha Motif ES and XS; maybe the functionality of Triton
is been taken over by other models.
Anyway, sounds are still the main priority when buying a synth.
I think if we are doing serious music sequencing, using a computer
may be the ideal situation.
pf
New member
Yes Cheez...at first I didn't use headphones and the sound is kinda ummmm...."screechy".
With the headphones, it's better. But I still wld like to hear more....errhhh..."depth" or "mellowness" in the sound.
I tried to set up my own prefered sound, but the changes won't stick! I think I didn't managed to save it properly.
Sorry...don't know what are the techy terms to use. Hahahaha....
With the headphones, it's better. But I still wld like to hear more....errhhh..."depth" or "mellowness" in the sound.
I tried to set up my own prefered sound, but the changes won't stick! I think I didn't managed to save it properly.
Sorry...don't know what are the techy terms to use. Hahahaha....
Cheez
Moderator
Bongman, you're right. I usually delete contents. But then I'm having sleepless nights due to my new baby - cannot think properly nowadays...
Back to topic. I feel that all the so-called "new" models are build on the existing old technology. Doesn't matter whether it is Yamaha or Korg, you can tell that there is no breakthrough in the sound architecture. They come up with new names, slightly different wave forms and synthesis, maybe more polyphony, but they are generally still the same old thing. Do you find that to be true?
It seems the real breakthrough with revolutionary sounds come from softsynths.
Back to topic. I feel that all the so-called "new" models are build on the existing old technology. Doesn't matter whether it is Yamaha or Korg, you can tell that there is no breakthrough in the sound architecture. They come up with new names, slightly different wave forms and synthesis, maybe more polyphony, but they are generally still the same old thing. Do you find that to be true?
It seems the real breakthrough with revolutionary sounds come from softsynths.
iansoh
Moderator
congrats on the new addition, cheez!
bongman, personally I feel the Triton sounds have long outlived their lifetime already. I dunno why people are still buying them.. X50, TR etc etc. even the Oasys and M3 sound resembles the Triton HI engine, which for me is a major point NOT to buy these synths, even if offered a really good price cos eventually new toys will overtake and before we know it, we find ourselves stuck with a bunch of relatively under-performing, old-sounding gadgets.
As for tweaking the presets.. i'm not sure if that's really helpful because the limitations lie in the quality and tonality of the samples themselves. I'm talking about organic sounds here. analog synth - 'electronic' sounds are not my interest so shall not comment on that.
To pf: the acoustics of your piano room will affect the sound that u hear from the CVP. You could try turning up the volume much louder when you play, maybe at least 3 o'clock position on the volume knob. In the case of headphones, are you using a good pair? you better not be using some crappy iPod earphones...
bongman, personally I feel the Triton sounds have long outlived their lifetime already. I dunno why people are still buying them.. X50, TR etc etc. even the Oasys and M3 sound resembles the Triton HI engine, which for me is a major point NOT to buy these synths, even if offered a really good price cos eventually new toys will overtake and before we know it, we find ourselves stuck with a bunch of relatively under-performing, old-sounding gadgets.
As for tweaking the presets.. i'm not sure if that's really helpful because the limitations lie in the quality and tonality of the samples themselves. I'm talking about organic sounds here. analog synth - 'electronic' sounds are not my interest so shall not comment on that.
To pf: the acoustics of your piano room will affect the sound that u hear from the CVP. You could try turning up the volume much louder when you play, maybe at least 3 o'clock position on the volume knob. In the case of headphones, are you using a good pair? you better not be using some crappy iPod earphones...
Cheez
Moderator
One of the main thing of a clavinova is using the speakers that comes with it. If in the end, you go for headphones, then it would be better to get a weighted synth which gives you more functionality than the CVP. I would suggest trying to get the best "live" sound as you can. CVP's speakers are supposed to be pretty good.
Bongman - I'm a very patriotic Singaporean. It's my number 3 (which makes 3 boys).
Iansoh, I agree that the sound is about the same. I was terribly disappointed when I first tried the Oasys. Even Yamaha, they is nothing new in the sounds. I'm glad I went the software path. Better to spend the money on something like NI's Komplete than a new synth.
Bongman - I'm a very patriotic Singaporean. It's my number 3 (which makes 3 boys).
Iansoh, I agree that the sound is about the same. I was terribly disappointed when I first tried the Oasys. Even Yamaha, they is nothing new in the sounds. I'm glad I went the software path. Better to spend the money on something like NI's Komplete than a new synth.
exin
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I'm using a Kort Triton Extreme in my office.
honestly, the samples ain't that fantastic. I got better samples from Reason than the Korg itself.
but it works for most projects that i do. I find some of the samples just plain lifeless, but i've gotta to admit that some samples are really fantastic. e.g. the keyboard, synth sounds. The strings samples are plain lifeless.
so what's wrong with Korg man!?!?
honestly, the samples ain't that fantastic. I got better samples from Reason than the Korg itself.
but it works for most projects that i do. I find some of the samples just plain lifeless, but i've gotta to admit that some samples are really fantastic. e.g. the keyboard, synth sounds. The strings samples are plain lifeless.
so what's wrong with Korg man!?!?
anyway ....
guys ... i'm right at the deciding point of buying my first really usable n ... *expensive* synth .... (i sold my 2 previous one away...)
and i'm really in a need of buying one soon ....
now it has become a
Motif / Fantom / Triton - war for me .... mwahahaha
and yesterday i spend my evening playing around at sweelee (fantom x6) and went to yamaha plazing to play with motif XS ....
i'm kinda confused rite now ....
first it's because .... I'm always a korg user ... and i always a korg user. But recently I'm actually looking at roland (mostly because of VP550 .. hoho)
then i went to try fantom x6 ... and was amazed with the ultimate grand.... really quite shiok .. compared to playing a piano sound on motif or triton ..
but then, as i was playing, browsing through the patch for about 1 hour plus ... i was quite dissapointed .... particularly with the preset lead sound ... I know that it's always can be tweak and i can make completely new sound ... but for the price that swee lee give to me (only the keyboard without nothin extra, not even pedal ... omg...) 4.4k is just too much for me .... and considering the expressive control relies only to that 1 bend knob .. which goes only 3 direction (i'm used to KORG's 4 directional) ... and no near to grab button ... whereas a triton have 2 button and 1 ribbon controller ... i feel that it's not the option for me ..
any defend on that point? .... i'm not too familiar with roland synth so, if cheez and bongman can enlightened me on that? hehehe .....
as for yamaha .... i didn't like the UI at all .... i think yamaha is a no-no for me ... unless it's free ... mwahahaha =P
so anyone? ..... if not ... i'm goin for Triton Extreme ..... more bang for the bucks that i need to give ... hahahaha (read: cheaper)
any place sells a nord-lead in singapore? ...
guys ... i'm right at the deciding point of buying my first really usable n ... *expensive* synth .... (i sold my 2 previous one away...)
and i'm really in a need of buying one soon ....
now it has become a
Motif / Fantom / Triton - war for me .... mwahahaha
and yesterday i spend my evening playing around at sweelee (fantom x6) and went to yamaha plazing to play with motif XS ....
i'm kinda confused rite now ....
first it's because .... I'm always a korg user ... and i always a korg user. But recently I'm actually looking at roland (mostly because of VP550 .. hoho)
then i went to try fantom x6 ... and was amazed with the ultimate grand.... really quite shiok .. compared to playing a piano sound on motif or triton ..
but then, as i was playing, browsing through the patch for about 1 hour plus ... i was quite dissapointed .... particularly with the preset lead sound ... I know that it's always can be tweak and i can make completely new sound ... but for the price that swee lee give to me (only the keyboard without nothin extra, not even pedal ... omg...) 4.4k is just too much for me .... and considering the expressive control relies only to that 1 bend knob .. which goes only 3 direction (i'm used to KORG's 4 directional) ... and no near to grab button ... whereas a triton have 2 button and 1 ribbon controller ... i feel that it's not the option for me ..
any defend on that point? .... i'm not too familiar with roland synth so, if cheez and bongman can enlightened me on that? hehehe .....
as for yamaha .... i didn't like the UI at all .... i think yamaha is a no-no for me ... unless it's free ... mwahahaha =P
so anyone? ..... if not ... i'm goin for Triton Extreme ..... more bang for the bucks that i need to give ... hahahaha (read: cheaper)
any place sells a nord-lead in singapore? ...
pf
New member
Wohoo....3 boys! Congrats Cheez!
Yeah, I agree that the speakers of the CVP is quite good. At first I thot the sound is from the speakers thats hooked up to th CVP at my music school. My teacher said it wasn't. Speakers just for recording songs or whatever.
I think my neighbours wldn't like it if I were to start playing with the vol up at 12mnite.
But I'll go try it out again now!
Yeah, I agree that the speakers of the CVP is quite good. At first I thot the sound is from the speakers thats hooked up to th CVP at my music school. My teacher said it wasn't. Speakers just for recording songs or whatever.
I think my neighbours wldn't like it if I were to start playing with the vol up at 12mnite.
But I'll go try it out again now!
iansoh
Moderator
If there's one thing I like about Korg, it's the combi mode. very comprehensive midi implementation and paramters, key-zone layout capabilities and CC mapping capabilities, yamaha certainly doesn't match up, dunno about roland.
on a tangent: I found a VST host that does exactly that: energyXT. except that instead of individual patches, we're talking about combining multiple VSTs and VSTis. really small footprint too.. 1MB. with built-in sequencer, sampler and loop player.
on a tangent: I found a VST host that does exactly that: energyXT. except that instead of individual patches, we're talking about combining multiple VSTs and VSTis. really small footprint too.. 1MB. with built-in sequencer, sampler and loop player.
Cheez
Moderator
piano_ex, Roland's lead sounds are the worst compared to the the rest. However, their acoustic sounds are simply unbeatable (ie piano, strings, woodwinds and brass). Roland's acoustic makes Yamaha and Korg sound terribly plastic! And what you heard is only the factory Roland sounds. Their expansion cards are way better.
So in the end, it's what type of music you're going to play. If you like the controllers in the Korg so much, you can always get a Roland module just for the sound. Controllers is a preference thing. Korg's controllers are suited for electronic music, hence the ribbon etc. Roland's joystick is a good all-rounded use. But I prefer Yamaha's wheels as they have pitch and mod separated in 2 vertical wheels. Best for sampling orchestral music when mod wheel control is very crucial (and I don't want to have accidental pitch changes everytime I use the mod wheel).
And as for the "combi" modes, I think it's again about getting used to it. But I do think Korg's combi mode is slightly better as well. Yamaha is simply user-unfriendly. Roland's also require some programming, but once you get used to it, it's OK.
Iansoh, I looked up energyXT. It looks like a standard DAW program. Did I miss something?
Getting late (almost 2 am). Baby fed, diapers changed. Now to sleep...for 3 hours until the next feed. It's been a while since I did this...
So in the end, it's what type of music you're going to play. If you like the controllers in the Korg so much, you can always get a Roland module just for the sound. Controllers is a preference thing. Korg's controllers are suited for electronic music, hence the ribbon etc. Roland's joystick is a good all-rounded use. But I prefer Yamaha's wheels as they have pitch and mod separated in 2 vertical wheels. Best for sampling orchestral music when mod wheel control is very crucial (and I don't want to have accidental pitch changes everytime I use the mod wheel).
And as for the "combi" modes, I think it's again about getting used to it. But I do think Korg's combi mode is slightly better as well. Yamaha is simply user-unfriendly. Roland's also require some programming, but once you get used to it, it's OK.
Iansoh, I looked up energyXT. It looks like a standard DAW program. Did I miss something?
Getting late (almost 2 am). Baby fed, diapers changed. Now to sleep...for 3 hours until the next feed. It's been a while since I did this...
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