Indie Rock music


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Just curious.....

Why do they call it indie rock music?? And whats so special about it???
And....whats up with a keyboardist in a indie rock band??
Lol indie = independant i think

indie rock bands = independant rock bands. haha

well i posted this before. if im not wrong, they have no labels and erm... everything done by themselves
From what I gathered it means Independent (not Indian) because they don't have a producer or something.

And about the keyboard, where did you assume that? Some non-indie bands have keyboards too don't they?
Frozen said:
From what I gathered it means Independent (not Indian) because they don't have a producer or something.

means 99% of the local bands, no matter what genre, are indie band?

is there any non-indie band in singapore.
can anybody name some of them?
indie rock? just a genre... i don't think its totally because the band got no producer or no record label... i mean local band, eg. electrico... i think their genre is like indie pop/rock or something like that. and they're under universal. so, i think indie is quite wide...
Frozen said:
tany said:
hi what examples are indie rock? i have lil knowledge of genres

Like "hot hot heat" (look at blackducttaple's avatar). I think electrico if they're indie?

Hot Hot Heat isnt indierock dude. Indie is a wide genre which is just like pornography.(err..maybe not) You wouldnt know how to describe it but you only know what it is when you see it.(err.bad explaination.sorry) It ranges from stuff like Oasis to The Strokes. IndieRock is a sub-genre which has been around for some time but hasnt exactly been popular.

Stuffs like Sunny Day Real Estate, Samiam, Jawbreaker, Texas Is The Reason. These are bands which might not be around now but were more popular in the 1990s. I believe some of soft users might heard of these bands. Prolly the older ones. Go check them out!
indie = independent = unsigned by major distribution label = what used to be called "alternative"

Once an indie rock band makes the big time it's not really indie anymore, you'd think of them as a rock band. In terms of an indie sound, it's something that evolves depending on what the "in" sound in the scene is and what the major labels decide to pick up and put in their stable of artists. Like how simple plan used to be a bit more hardcore when they were indie before making it big. A sound is usually "indie" if it's the kind of sound that major labels won't pick up, i.e. not sell very well in the top 40 market.
Alternative doesn't always mean indie.
Look at The Killers or Franz Ferdinand. 8)
An indie band can be one that chooses to remain in the underground scene even when they have made it big; not choosing to sign with a major label.
Guys, should a definition escape you, never feel shy to look up the online dictionary. (I do) :p .... Here is what I found ...

Definitions of "indie"

Indie meaning "not major-label"
One of the most common and simplest definitions of "indie" is the definition of not being connected with a major recording label (currently one of the "Big Four" recording companies: Warner, Universal, Sony BMG and EMI). This is the definition used by NME's indie music charts in the UK, among others.

The problem with this definition is that there is often little correlation between the commerciality or creative freedom offered by major labels and those outside the "big 4". Most of the larger independent labels are run along the same business principles as the major labels, with A&R departments, marketing budgets and commercial considerations guiding their operations. Meanwhile, major labels often retain independently-oriented artists who are given greater creative independence, and who receive considerable critical acclaim. Some notable major-label artists of this sort include Radiohead, Pulp and The Flaming Lips.

Illustrating the flaws in this definition of "indie", for a time in the late 1990s, three of the most successful artists in the UK indie charts were NSync, the Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears. All three were signed to Zomba, which was technically an independent label at the time. (Zomba has since become part of major label Sony BMG).

Indie and commerciality
A more puristic structural definition of "indie" would draw the line further down, not between the "big 4" major labels and others but between the "big indie" labels and smaller labels, considered by purists to be true indie labels. These small labels are typically run by a few people, often out of their home or garage, and often coupled with a mail-order service representing other labels. The people running the labels have a close connection to a certain scene; many labels are run partially or wholly by musicians in bands on them. A concern for the purity of the creative mission of the label takes precedence over commercial concerns; many labels close down or go on hiatus when the owners lose interest or (as often happens) run out of money (or sometimes close down when the owners feel their mission has been fulfilled, as happened with Sarah Records). Archetypal examples of such labels include Sarah Records, Factory Records, Kindercore and Kill Rock Stars.

Once again, this is not so much a dichotomy as a continuum; some labels grow from such independent status and gradually become more commercially oriented (often prompted by the success of one of their acts), eventually becoming subsumed by a larger conglomeration or a major label. One example of this was Creation Records, a label Alan McGee started in the 1980s on a small scale, which, in the 1990s had success with Oasis, subsequently becoming much more commercially oriented before being acquired by Sony.

Indie and genres
The word "indie" is sometimes used (somewhat inaccurately) to refer specifically to various genres or sounds. During the 1980s, "indie" was synonymous in Britain with jangly guitar pop of the C-86 movement. During the 1990s a lot of Britpop bands were referred to as "indie", despite most of the movement being signed to major labels and dominating sales charts. More recently, the word "indie" is sometimes used as a synonym for new wave revivalist bands such as Interpol, Franz Ferdinand and The Killers. The word "indie" is sometimes used as a synonym for alternative, a word which often bears the stigma of being associated with cynically manufactured mass-market teen-rebellion music from major labels. Such usages of "indie" are inaccurate for various reasons: for one, stylistic qualities are often not accurately correlated to commercial independence or adherence to indie principles (this is particularly true when a sound becomes popular, its leading exponents are signed by major labels and more success-oriented bands and production teams attempt to imitate the style; this ultimately culminates in commercially-driven artists such as Avril Lavigne sporting the same stylistic traits the "indie" artists of a year ago had). Secondly, however pervasive any style of music (even one as broadly defined as "guitar pop" or "post-punk rock") may become at a particular time, it by definition cannot embody all of indie music, as, by indie's nature, there will be indie artists, labels and possibly entire local scenes operating outside of this style and its definitions.

Cultural/philosophical attributes of indie
There are a number of cultural and philosophical traits which could be more useful in pinpointing what "indie" is about than specific musical styles or commercial ownership. Indie artists are concerned more with self-expression than commercial considerations (though, again, this is a stance that is affected by many artists, including hugely commercially successful ones). A do-it-yourself (DIY) sensibility, which originated with punk in the 1970s, is often associated with indie, with people in the scene being involved in bands, labels, nights and zines. Indie often has an internationalist outlook, which stems from a sense of solidarity with other fans, bands and labels in other countries who share one's particular sensibilities; small indie labels will often distribute records for similar labels from abroad, and indie bands will often go on self-funded tours of other cities and countries, where those in the local indie scenes will invariably help organise gigs and often provide accommodation and other support.

Indie artists of any particular time often go against the prevailing trends (for example, the twee pop movement that started in the 1980s was a reaction against the testosterone-fuelled swagger of rock). A 'lo-fi' aesthetic (i.e., an often deliberate lack of polish and a more "authentic" roughness and imperfection) has often been associated with indie, particularly when slick, polished recordings were the preserve of the commercial music industry; this line has since become blurred, in a world where high-quality recordings can be made increasingly easily with inexpensive computer-based recording systems and where commercial production teams often deliberately affect a fashionably "lo-fi" sound.

Subcategories of indie
There are several subcategories indie music is often grouped broadly into. Indie rock and indie pop are the most common ones. The difference between these is difficult to pick up from the instrumentation or sound, as both genres include distorted guitar-based music based on pop-song conventions. If anything, the key distinction comes not from instrumentation or structure but from how strictly they follow cultural constructions of rockist "authenticity". There is also indie dance, which comes from a fusion of indie pop and electronic/dance music.

Indie as a Life Style
During and immediately after high school and college many people adopt the label of "indie". For many this simply means dressing as an "Indie" this can vary wildly from person to person but is usually wearing jeans (mostly black), a band or otherwise decorated t-shirt, and a hoodie (black). These rules are not absolute and in fact are extremely regional. The decorations of the Indie lifestyle include piercing generally on the ears or lip rarely tongue or nose, and very rarely tattoos. Clothing is generally decorated with a verity of pins and patches. These are used to express a range of opinions either political or otherwise. Many of these pins are cynical to the extreme, for example, "thanks for making the rest of us look good". Some "rockists" define Indie by what they listen to. many "true" indies collect vinyl records. the Ipod has been a major boon for indies as it allows them to carry around their entire music collection(excluding vinyl in their pocket.