If Don't Like RockOn then Work with LightsOut or Screamevents

screamevents said:
20 tickets , you sell 3 tickets left 17 right?

organiser will give you 17 tickets of the next show and ask you to sell
so your band becomes the organiser promoter

and more course

maybe this does happen in sg but it's seldom
so bands out there ! if you don't like RockOn then
go work with LightsOut or Screamevents or others organisers
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errr.....
is the band playing?
wat if the band still cant sell?
 
Well, u just got to see for yourself whether they are real money profiters or real organisers. Cuz though im with LightsOutInk, I tink u guys should really experience it yourself seriously. Thats all. We welcome all comments and feedbacks sincerely. Thanks.
 
screamevents said:
Alright, here goes nothing.

if everyone don't like Rock on
then work for LightsOut or Screamevents then

get it??

p2p is not just about / IF YOU CAN'T SELL FINISH THE TICKETS YOU HAVE TO PAY. NO


THERE'S MORE THINGS UNDER P2P gigs

1) if your band sells the most tickets in the gig. your band then can choose the time slots or you can have more time perform

2) your band will get notice by the organiser as he will keep asking you to come back and sell tickets for him

3) if your band sell less or can't finish. some organiser will ask your band to sell the number of tickets which you can't finish

20 tickets , you sell 3 tickets left 17 right?

organiser will give you 17 tickets of the next show and ask you to sell
so your band becomes the organiser promoter


and more course

maybe this does happen in sg but it's seldom
so bands out there ! if you don't like RockOn then
go work with LightsOut or Screamevents or others organisers
Click to expand...

Usually i do not get my head messed up with controversial issues. But let me voice out my opinion. Being part of lights out, we 3 meaning, Jaarvis, Vineeth and myself have never looked at organising gigs from this angle.

1.We had never favoured bands that clears tix. Yes, they help us cover rental costs. But favouring them has never been our options. When we say slots are random, slots are random. Featured bands are the only ones with options usually unless a particular band has reasonable commitments on day of performance. Eg. National Service Issues.

2.I send my notices to all bands that have performed well on that day and those who stayed back to support the other bands. I know we are new but our intentions to help the scene is genuine.

Being an organiser is full of risks. Its like holding a shop along a road. Some days u clear and some days u don't. We, Lights Out, have faced both. This post is not some post to bring up our name or help us gather more support. Cause that defeats the purpose of this post then. If a post were to help us get 100 more people to support us then we have failed. Actions speaks louder then words right?

So wds the purpose of this post?

Wd is a p2p gig?

The Principle behind pay to play gigs is that when u gather your support for the gig, its a hope that fans would stay to watch other bands. This are not the only crowd organisers should be catering to. Organisers should promote their gig as much as possible to gather giggoers. Many would complain that if u sell 20 tix, u will only have 20 audience as others will go off after watching their fren's or family's set. If u had been to rebellion, it was jam packed from start till end. So was that crowd for only 1 band?

Pay to play gigs should not be eliminated. Do not get me wrong here! Force to pay gigs should be eliminated. This is really how i feel deep down. Pardon me for my tone and grammatical errors as i m typing this from just 3 hours sleep.

I m not forcing anyone to support p2p gigs neither am i critising DIY gigs. Both has its ups and downs. Honestly I do support DIY gigs too. As we do not have our own funds this is how we work. But the point is, do not psycho people saying that this is bad or this is good. Advices are good. But let them do what they feel. This whole thing seems lyk a propaganda. We can go about any way to organise gigs. P2P or DIY but at the end of the day lets ensure a quality gig is organised. Lets continue cleaning and amplifying the local music scene in Singapore.

Sorry if i had offended anyone. Wow this is the longest post i have ever posted on soft!
 
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Dear guys of DIY organizers,

Its really an experience to organize a show big or small. At the end of the day, everyone must be happy. Hopefully to gain experiences to make bigger scale shows. And also, nothing is free in this world. Earn what you can earn. EG. Transportations and HP bills etc.

Do not end the P2P gigs completely. Nowadays places for gig/shows are very expensive. I was shocked to know that Geylang Serai Seri Friends etc had increased the prices.So organizing a DIY gig with the bands would be very great. Bands knows how tough it is to organize.

Bands and organizers should know each other well. Not random bands saying HI, lemme perform..
Theres no chemistry going on, thus, these bands wont stay long for the rest of the bands performed or even never even say THANKS FOR THE SHOW SLOT etc etc..

LOSS or PROFITS must be shared amongs the bands and organizers. Thats DIY!

For my side, everyone played MUST/SHOULD know each other through 1st or 2nd or 3rd degree. ITs really fun to organize a show that makes you happy at the end of the day.

I really enjoy gigs/concerts at a bigger stage not places thats like a place for the sake of gigging. If you know what I mean. Even a small studio can be a place to gig. It can really hurt your ears overtime. But still, start small. Sorry if im offending anyone here. I know where I started as.

My TOP 5 Recommended place to DIY gig.

1)Old School @ mt Sophia
2)Garages near to Telok Blangah
3)FAD Studio
4)Glass Hall
5)Small new pubs near town area

My top 5 advise to DIY gig.

1)Get in contacts with loads of people in the music scene/Have loads of friends who can work together with you.
2)Be commited
3)Be Passionate
4)Know what your doing
5)Try to get the cheapest deal in town and return back to them. Eg: Massive Advertisement through different media.

We really need to sit down and have a GATHERING, a big one with all the local musicians/organizers to hold a massive National Event for the local music with can create awareness to our fellow citizens. (hehe) And also share ideas!

WE NEED A REVOLUTION!
 
easiest thing. organizers owned a studio(big or small). owner just pay the rental/electrical and water(toilet) bill. best.
 
Jaarvis, if i can eat my words i will eat them man. I tried to Pm u but the inbox is full, maybe u can read this. Akbar Tfk.
 
Akbar , its alright man. i knew you said it wrongly. Judging from ur facial expression during Rebellion , its impossible for you to say that man. \m/ dont worry. its all good. ha. Shall await TFK on Anihillation.
 
<Pay to play gigs should not be eliminated. Do not get me wrong here! Force to pay gigs should be eliminated. This is really how i feel deep down. Pardon me for my tone and grammatical errors as i m typing this from just 3 hours sleep.> quoted.



apologies ! but screamevents is totally agree with lightsout

main forcus !
Pay to play gigs should not be eliminated
Force to pay gigs should be eliminated


guess the rest is up to you guys.
we shall end this post
 
i think the 1st post is just a nicer way of saying .
Rockon sucks! come work for me instead!
not only are u being unfair to them , it is also very unprofessional and unethical.

Even the most competitive and aggressive firms do not speak ill of their rivals when promoting themselves.
 
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