Ibanez Pups

[pooo]

Coil tapping is when u modify the wiring so that u can switch to a humbucker, which is operating in single coil mode. only the single humbucker, so to speak. <- right?

Other than that, it can also refer to switching from series wiring to parallel, in and out of phase thing.

 

[Ablue]

Enough with that. I was aware that they have this promotion free installation and crap and you have to buy new strings watnots ok fine. I wanted to clear my doubts by asking them whether they would charge for the coil tapping. Never know they might charge as its changing of pots and the deal was free pickup installation.
But to my "suprise", they gave me a freaking blur face and like they got no bit of idea on wat coil tapping is. Well, thats wat i thought from their facial expression. They went "Coil Tapping?? Umm.. wat do u mean??" Must i explain further??

'Coil tapping' is for single coil pickups. Coil splitting is for humbuckers. Its a misnomer to use coil tapping when you actually mean splitting. A coil tap is usually done on a high output single coil whereby there are 2 hot leads. One lead will give the pickup's full output and the other lead will give approximately 3/4 to half. Look at the Duncan 1/4 pound single coil. It comes in a tapped version.

As for your experience at Davis, you've got to understand that it's not worth it for them to bring in a few pots. The shipping costs is just not worth it. Therefore, they need time to consolidate the orders and then ship everything at one go. Would you be willing to pay say 15 USD for the shipping of one pot? Any custom wiring is chargeable, browse repair services in the US and coil splitting is anything from 25 -50 dollars. If they do it for free, good. If they don't I think its fair too.

 

[WiZaRd]

Oops. My mistake. Not aware that it actually means 2 different things. Cuz i saw a tag marked "coil tap" at a washburn guitar with build in duncan pups H-H configuration(pups coil splitted).. I meant Coil Split for my case. I would like to have my JB coil splitted.

Umm actually davis sell the pot. After all that pissing off moment, I bought the 500K push pull pot. 12 bucks from davis. I'll get my pickup change done elsewhere. I have no hatred against davis but it was just pissing off just now. They didn't provide me with a gd service.

Bout the charging, I have no comments bout that. I wouldn't be angry if they charge. They said free installation for pickup change only also. Nuting more other than that

 

[thor666]

WiZaRd - is it a 500kA (audio taper) pot? thanks in advance.

 

[Guest]

Hrm. I just sent my guitar in at Davis to fix up the internal wiring. Had a tricky 5-way 4-pole switch (megaswitch), dual hums, 1 volume and 2 tones. Asked specifically for Joe to take a look at it. He got it fixed up in a couple of hours. I think you might have been talking to one of the hapless sales people. :?

You could always try to find a schematic for what you want off the net and give it to the tech. like the seymour duncan site, fender http://www.fender.com/support/diagrams/index.php and http://guitarelectronics.zoovy.com/category/wiringresources.22pickupdiagrams/

Hopefully you don't get someone who doesn't know how to follow a schematic. You'll probably be even more pissed then.

 

[Ablue]

Oops. My mistake. Not aware that it actually means 2 different things. Cuz i saw a tag marked "coil tap" at a washburn guitar with build in duncan pups H-H configuration(pups coil splitted).. I meant Coil Split for my case. I would like to have my JB coil splitted.

Umm actually davis sell the pot. After all that pissing off moment, I bought the 500K push pull pot. 12 bucks from davis. I'll get my pickup change done elsewhere. I have no hatred against davis but it was just pissing off just now. They didn't provide me with a gd service.

Bout the charging, I have no comments bout that. I wouldn't be angry if they charge. They said free installation for pickup change only also. Nuting more other than that

It's not your fault really. Manufacturers get the term wrong too. Probably coil tapping is used to mean coil splitting so often that manufacturers start to adopt the word coil tap was well. But coming back to think about it, whether coil tap was the right word or not, someone who does electrical mods for guitar should know what you are talking about.

 

[Ablue]

You could always try to find a schematic for what you want off the net and give it to the tech. like the seymour duncan site, fender http://www.fender.com/support/diagrams/index.php and http://guitarelectronics.zoovy.com/category/wiringresources.22pickupdiagrams/

Hopefully you don't get someone who doesn't know how to follow a schematic. You'll probably be even more pissed then.

Actually, those 'schematics' are not really schematics, they are more like schematics for the 'dummy' series Its easy to follow those 'schematics wrongly because, it is depicted mechanically i.e pictorically rather than electrically. Real electrical schematics are actually more reliable as they are void of mechanical information. A good tech should be able to get most wiring configurations without the need of a 'schematic'. There are many who just follow blindly and not know what is going on. Anyway nothing wrong with that as long as they get the job done. But when it comes to customization, probably better to get someone who understands the guitar circuit properly. Its a simple circuit anyway. Think about it, the circuit has been around for more than 50 years

 

[hullabalooeeks]

I think its called tapping cuz u press the button to give u single coil mode, press it again to give u humbucking mode.

 

[WiZaRd]

WiZaRd - is it a 500kA (audio taper) pot? thanks in advance.

K frankly speaking I dun't know. Haha. Yes like i said im not that knowledgeable all stuffs. Umm Its PP-V 500KA. Got it at Davis for 12 dollars. P.U Gotoh. I told them i need a 500K Push pull pot and they gave me that.

 

[WiZaRd]

WiZaRd - is it a 500kA (audio taper) pot? thanks in advance.

K frankly speaking I dun't know. Haha. Yes like i said im not that knowledgeable on all stuffs. Umm Its PP-V 500KA. Got it at Davis for 12 dollars. P.U Gotoh. I told them i need a 500K Push pull pot and they gave me that.

 

[thor666]

the A behind the K means audio

 

[subversion]

'Coil tapping' is for single coil pickups. Coil splitting is for humbuckers. Its a misnomer to use coil tapping when you actually mean splitting. A coil tap is usually done on a high output single coil whereby there are 2 hot leads. One lead will give the pickup's full output and the other lead will give approximately 3/4 to half. Look at the Duncan 1/4 pound single coil. It comes in a tapped version.

i believe humbuckers can be tapped too. refer to the switching diagram below of the Ibanez RG1527. in position 2, the humbucker is parallel connected- it's tapped to give off a more vintage tone by reducing its output.

 

[BlackMoo]

Wtf? Its ampere isnt it?

 

[thor666]

uh the pot is a variable resistor... don't think it has anything to do with amperes.

 

[WiZaRd]

Umm..It's the right thing rites?? I hope.. :?

 

[Ablue]

'Coil tapping' is for single coil pickups. Coil splitting is for humbuckers. Its a misnomer to use coil tapping when you actually mean splitting. A coil tap is usually done on a high output single coil whereby there are 2 hot leads. One lead will give the pickup's full output and the other lead will give approximately 3/4 to half. Look at the Duncan 1/4 pound single coil. It comes in a tapped version.

i believe humbuckers can be tapped too. refer to the switching diagram below of the Ibanez RG1527. in position 2, the humbucker is parallel connected- it's tapped to give off a more vintage tone by reducing its output.

I know I'm splitting hairs, but coil tapping is reserved for single coils and splitting for humbuckers. Tapping is simply a misnomer but now commonly accepted as 'splitting'. Parallel just means the two coils are in parallel rather than series. Think batteries.

 

[thor666]

Umm..It's the right thing rites?? I hope.. :?

it's the right thing. 8)

 

[subversion]

I know I'm splitting hairs, but coil tapping is reserved for single coils and splitting for humbuckers. Tapping is simply a misnomer but now commonly accepted as 'splitting'. Parallel just means the two coils are in parallel rather than series. Think batteries.

so what you are driving at is that, 'coil tapping' shouldn't be used for a humbucker which is parallel connected yes?

i'm not equating tapping with splitting for humbuckers either. just saying that when the humbucker is run on a reduced output, it's virtually a 'tapping' technique.

the terminology confusion doesn't end here- tremolo vs vibrato, that's another story 8)

 

[Ablue]

so what you are driving at is that, 'coil tapping' shouldn't be used for a humbucker which is parallel connected yes?

i'm not equating tapping with splitting for humbuckers either. just saying that when the humbucker is run on a reduced output, it's virtually a 'tapping' technique.

the terminology confusion doesn't end here- tremolo vs vibrato, that's another story 8)

yeah, which is why I said I was splitting hairs :lol: The only tapped humbucker I've seen so far is the Joe Barden two tone humbucker.

 

[neuro182]

Clueless

so what you are driving at is that, 'coil tapping' shouldn't be used for a humbucker which is parallel connected yes?

i'm not equating tapping with splitting for humbuckers either. just saying that when the humbucker is run on a reduced output, it's virtually a 'tapping' technique.

the terminology confusion doesn't end here- tremolo vs vibrato, that's another story 8)

yeah, which is why I said I was splitting hairs :lol: The only tapped humbucker I've seen so far is the Joe Barden two tone humbucker.

im totally clueless 8O