Heel toe vs sliding technique. AND HELP..

[exloser]

Hi, i wonder anyone of the pros here have master both heel-toe and sliding technique? Cause, i was deciding to pick up which skill first. Peoples on the other forums mentioned that sliding can be faster and less tiring when playing at very fast speed. And i managed to get the hang of heel-toe but i do not even get the sliding technique after watching youtube video. Any pro can help adviced how to do sliding technique?

Thanks.

*After all, find it more cool to play doubles on single pedal.

 

[laughableinsanity]

Hi, i wonder anyone of the pros here have master both heel-toe and sliding technique? Cause, i was deciding to pick up which skill first. Peoples on the other forums mentioned that sliding can be faster and less tiring when playing at very fast speed. And i managed to get the hang of heel-toe but i do not even get the sliding technique after watching youtube video. Any pro can help adviced how to do sliding technique?

Thanks.

*After all, find it more cool to play doubles on single pedal.

i'm not a pro but, based on my own experience, sliding is like,
after hitting the first kick, upon lifting up your feet for the 2nd kick, move it fowards and hit it down at the pedal.

apologies for the poor english explanation but hope it helps.

 

[Mr. Mouse]

I use the slide technique because it does not involve too much 'motion'. If you practice doubles all day without actually thinking what technique to use, you will naturally 'slide' up for the second stroke. It's what happened for me.

Slide is good for very fast and easy doubles, (IMO) with heel toe you can't play doubles as fast as slide. However you can't play constant notes with slide, but you can with heel toe.

Just my 2c.

 

[Chaserr]

seriously, its depends on your how comfortable you are with the two , and which one gives you more control

 

[Magnimas]

Just a quick qn, is it possible to do slide w/o shoes? O_O coz i can almost imagine the the bottom of the foot almost rubbing against the pedal board when u are doing the double fast O_O

 

[shaketheplanetDP]

wear socks?

 

[bealerbet]

Hi, i wonder anyone of the pros here have master both heel-toe and sliding technique? Cause, i was deciding to pick up which skill first. Peoples on the other forums mentioned that sliding can be faster and less tiring when playing at very fast speed. And i managed to get the hang of heel-toe but i do not even get the sliding technique after watching youtube video. Any pro can help adviced how to do sliding technique?

Thanks.

*After all, find it more cool to play doubles on single pedal.

im not pro but i can let u in with stuff i go tru. if u can really do comfortable quick double with heal toe, my suggestion bring ur pedal to jam session or gigs it be easier, if not learn both heal-toe and slide. coz wat i been constantly encounter i can only do heal toe on certain pedal, and if u thinking i learn the wrong way well u decide coz like i say "certain pedal" i unable to do and certain pedal i can do better then my own pedal. well, now i still undergoing slide tech, useful to learn both.

 

[Magnimas]

its useful to learn all the doubles of course.. i was 1st exposed to swivel by my drum instructor.. w/o shoes, its rather lyk rubbing the foot on the pedal.. meaning if i wanted to do swivel, it could be easier wif socks.. so smth i found out abt each of the doubles:
heel-toe >> seems to be easier to do with barefoot or socks on
slide >> easier with shoes on ( or a small accident can cause u to rub ur foot against the pedal at high speed?.. =O idk abt this..)
swivel >> socks n shoes ( though i nvr realli tried with shoes?..)
it may be personally preference too though.. ( abt the barefoot socks shoe ting i mean) but rite now im trying to learn all.. seems more beneficial for all circumstances..

 

[alvinthedrummer]

I play tap/slide, heel-toe and side to side....here are my thoughts:

1) For tap/slide, shoes with flat soles would be great but if you really want to "feel" the pedal, at least a pair of thick socks

2) Side to side is the same for tap/slide

3) heel-toe, I would go with only socks.

And there is no better or worse between these techniques....they all have their pros and cons. Learn them all if you can because they all sound different. Your pallet of sounds will increase!

 

[Drumbassador]

okay my opinion on this would be something to do with the health issues regarding these foot techniques. firstly i use the swivel technique on the hi-hat for fast eighth notes and also the flanging technique. for the kick drum i use the sliding technique quite a lot. for the kick drum for those using the sliding technique, i suggest you sit high on the stool. you only want your lower leg to be moving back and forth. if you sit low, the movement is exaggerated and you will be putting a lot of strain on your back and it eventually will lead to a slipped disc. also be relaxed while doing it because you don't want to be injuring your knees. epecially for the swivel technique for the hi-hat or the kickdrum, you knees are not created to be pivoted to be able to move from side-to-side when your upper leg is stationary so be very careful and don't strain it. minimise the movement. for the flanging technique i suggest you don't come down with the heel on the high hat too hard. i used to do it and it affected my knees. i hope this helps.