Handheld Recorder Shootout!!!

MackSonne

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Hey guys, am considering getting a handheld recorder, been doing some research but thought it'd be wise to hear some of your opinions. And hence shootout!!! Which do you think are the better handheld recorders out there in the local market?

On a side note, what technical specs does one look out for when getting a recorder?
 
I have a Zoom H4n, the advantage it has over the H2 is the XLR inputs. I can tap the audio feed of a mixer board for better quality.
 
I'm using the Tascam GT-R1, and it's working great for me. I think it's similar to the Zoom, but the Zoom has one up on the GT-R1 coz it has the XLR input.

You can visit my blog site as I post up all the songs I've been doing with my bands, and recorded with my GT-R1. It'll give u an indication of the sound quality.

http://fusionrocksmyworld.wordpress.com

Good luck!
 
Back! The Zoom H4N is surprisingly clear!! Like Wow! However just by reading the brochure, I would actually think that there a whole lot of stuff that might be underused - like the onboard amp modelling and the effects - shouldn't these be done on the workstation? What is your experience with using it James?

The Tascam sounds one level lower than the Zoom H4n... the vocals on while my guitar gently weeps is so muffled!! But it's really clear enough for 3 man band setups. Where did you get it adrii?

I play alternative metal and feeds on lots of distorted sounds and loud bass. I only worry that the Tascam or Zoom H2 might not be able to handle it well. So far I've listened to the Zoom demos and it doesn't sound very clear....

Has anyone tried the Microstack II?
 
I am using the H4n in its most basic form. Just record sound from mixer board as a backup for my video work.

With the extra XLR inputs, this is where the H4n might be more suitable for musicians/bands. If you are playing loud music, you can use a dynamic mic to get signal into the H4n. This way, you can capture the music without over distorting the H4n.
 
Hey MackSonne,

I got it from Guitar Center in LA a few months ago.... "While my guitar" was sung without a mic - my friend was singing into thin air and that was what was captured! Plus it was post processed with Garageband so there was some degradation....but otherwise, the rest of the tunes sounded a bit better? Having said that, I'd def think twice abt buying it if I spotted the Zoom first....! Is the Zoom larger than the tascam? It looks like that, though I can't be sure...?
 
Hey Adrii,

the Zoom got two types... H2 n H4N. I think u're talking abt H4N. From my gauge, I think the H4N might be longer and thicker than the Tascam... The original H4 is like a brick-spaceship-macs-toy or something lah...

I realise James is right about the H4N - it's xlr inputs makes it very very good for a jam session setting - just put the mics in the room against your bass amp and drums, then use the X/Y internal mics to address the two guitar amplifiers, or two output mics to the bass n single guitar amp, and leave the X/Y to the drums....
 
I have the H4n. From the specs, it looks like a very impressive recorder. I have only used a few times and the results have been pleasing. Not difficult to use for basic recording. I have not tried anything more complicated, like multi-track or XLR input, so I can't say. I was basically recording a seminar and I had no where to put the recorder except on the floor near the wall. I didn't adjust anything and just left everything on auto (auto gain, auto mic levels, whatever).

It is quite large though. Got an iPhone? Put 3 of them face to face. That's about how thick and wide it is. And about 1/4 longer.

Just to totally throw a monkey wrench in the works, maybe you can pick up a second hand iRiver iHP1xx or H1xx series. Probably the best portable MP3 player/recorder all-rounder. Loaded with Rockbox OS, and coupled with a quality mic, this will give all available recorders a run for their money. You get long running time, large storage space, the additional ability to record optical in. The Rockbox OS has a good recording interface with auto gain or manual gain, individual channel gain, clip protection, the ability to split files either by time or file size so that you are not limited by the 4GB file size imposed by the FAT file structure.

Limitations are that they don't make this anymore, so you have to find a good second hand piece. It is only 2-channel (stereo or mono only, no multi-track), no mixing, no XLR.
 
I see. I think consumer service would be integral to any purchase, which I think should be more available for the zoom than for the iRiver...

Nevertheless, am amped to get the H4N soon!
 
pros and cons

I own the Zoom H2 and have generally been very pleased with the results I've been able to get.....let's call it "cheap and good." I generally use it to record my band's weekly jam sessions, recording in a jam studio environment.

I also debated getting the H4n as well, but in the end opted not to, mainly because I wanted something as small and light as possible.

After 6 months of constant use, I can say that the Zoom H2 is able to deliver some pretty impressive sound quality. Don't forget it will record at 24-bit/96kHz in single mic pair mode and 24-bit/44.1kHz in dual mic pair mode.

All the other features (limiters/effects/compressors/auto-gain) I NEVER use because they are usually a surefire way to end up with a terrible end result.

So overall I can recommend the H2, but I am looking forward to upgrading to the Tascam DR-100 at some point.

Also, check out the August issue of MusicTech magazine. They have a feature on Mobile Recording technique and compare several models of hand-held recorders.

M
 
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I got my H2 and I'm enjoying every minute I use it. I seem to be able to do 48/24 4-channel "surround", and that's pretty much all I need for ambience and location recording.

BUT, the H4's condensers are of better quality. Captures more detail. Plus it has mic modeling, and I'd take a pair of AKG C414s anytime!
 
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