Gigging Equipment..

[SAN_TREMONTI]

Hey fellow softies..I'm the only guitarist for my band and they are thinking of doing a gig after another one or two practice sessions..Unfortunately, none of them have ever gigged b4..So, my question is what type of guitar equipment is usually provided at gigs by the organisers..Be it the type of amp (e.g. Combo amp, Head + Cabinet e.t.c.) or whatever..Ur help would be very much appreciated..

 

[Boogified]

normally it would be combo. depending on the sound crew. I had several gig and they use peavey classic combos with mic hanging. WTF . totally shit sound. One thing I noticed is to turn up ur volume or mids to cut through.
. If not you will be playing air guitar.

 

[SAN_TREMONTI]

Wow thats bad..Anyways, another question, Do you use the distortion from like ur effects pedals or just from the amp itself..

 

[Boogified]

yeah damn bad. Most ppl will use their own pedal effects for distortion
etc etc. The amp is just there to amplify ur sound . tts all. lol. I will bring my own amp down on my next gig. :twisted:

 

[edgie]

Just like what Boogified mentioned, it's usually the shitty amps. In my experience of occasional playing for about 4 years now in bars and even in outdoor events in malls, the amps are oftentimes peavey, crate, roland jazz chorus or a really beat up and vintage-in-a-not-so-good-way fender amps(If you have watched some of the outdoor mosaic performances at esplanade, you'll know what I mean).

Most bar operators have yet to grasp the concept of having decent amps. It's as if for them, if it's loud and working, it's good enough.

So with these in mind, better to have an amp simulator or amp-in-a-pedal pedals with you that will work with solid-state amps then just treat the amps as some sort of a PA system. Don't hope on getting a good distorted sound on the amps provided in venues.

 

[theGroovyMusic]

The best is to call the organiser and ask what you need to ask..... Organisers don't see the need to give you a list of equipment they are providing, so it's best to ask and keep probing! Or else it's your own loss~ Cheers

 

[edgie]

One more thing, do not expect to have monitors. You'll be lucky if you have monitors for vocals and bass. Also, expect most soundmen to chat or eat while you are playing. So if you are lucky to have a soundcheck, make sure you practice how to do a quick souncheck because once you start playing, you're on your own.

The only exceptions I can think of now(among the venues we played) is the now defunct(?) bar none(the soundmen are very professional and nice to us even though we're not a pro band) and DXO(they have recently upgraded their sound system late last year).

 

[lordie]

1st gig that i think u need to make an awesome impact.

1st step.

1.buy a mesa boogie dual or even rectifier with a 4x12 cab and than for other guitarist buy a peavery 6150+ with a 4x12 cab. or a HiWatt, or Marshall JCM 800, etc.. or something nice and tubey

2. for bassist go get a 8x10 ampeq with a SVTPro4 head. u need that wattage to cut thru 2 guitards with the above set-up

3. drums. bring a trigger and a dedicated roadie to set it up. faster that way.

4. singer bring own mic unless u wanna taste the previous band saliva.

well u can use the distortion/od from those amps those are good enuff, u might wanna add modulation and what not, u can also bring your own sound engineer and brief him what type of sound u wanna achieve. depending on venue u may or may not need to mic the amps or di the bass.

 

[edgie]

The best is to call the organiser and ask what you need to ask..... Organisers don't see the need to give you a list of equipment they are providing, so it's best to ask and keep probing! Or else it's your own loss~ Cheers

A lot of small gig organizers don't really take not what brand you are asking for. What they're just concerned about is how many amps should be there, of course the drums, and if there will be someone playing keyboards.

 

[Boogified]

My fart sounds better than their giggling amp.

 

[SAN_TREMONTI]

Lordie's idea sounds great..Unfortunately, i'm still schooling and i don't really have the cash to buy a mesa rectifier amp and cabinet..Haha..But, what do u guys think of amp simulators on multi fx like zoom? How does it compare to the real thing when used with a combo amp? And Boogified, ROFL!!

 

[Boogified]

lolololol. modeling Amps like line 6 is better than their stupid peavey , crate or whatever fart amps. But pure tube amp is the best. most of my
friends use amp simulator from their multi effects and sounded pretty bad.
because of the amp difference in studio , home
and gig.

 

[reez_rock]

Advice on ur first gig or early gig...Just set yourself free on stage and experience it.

Dun need to care about tone quality and equipments just yet. It will improve along the way.

When I had my first gig on 1999, I only brought my yamaha EG 303 strat copy and 1 boss Overdrive(OS2).

The only things that I need to know from the organizer is that whether there will be enough amps for me and my bandmates


Most importantly,make sure that your guitar is in tune so you won't embarrassed yourself and make waste all your practicing.

Have Fun!

 

[van_halen]

1st gig that i think u need to make an awesome impact.

1st step.

1.buy a mesa boogie dual or even rectifier with a 4x12 cab and than for other guitarist buy a peavery 6150+ with a 4x12 cab. or a HiWatt, or Marshall JCM 800, etc.. or something nice and tubey

2. for bassist go get a 8x10 ampeq with a SVTPro4 head. u need that wattage to cut thru 2 guitards with the above set-up

3. drums. bring a trigger and a dedicated roadie to set it up. faster that way.

4. singer bring own mic unless u wanna taste the previous band saliva.

well u can use the distortion/od from those amps those are good enuff, u might wanna add modulation and what not, u can also bring your own sound engineer and brief him what type of sound u wanna achieve. depending on venue u may or may not need to mic the amps or di the bass.

rock stars sial

 

[glblues]

1st gig that i think u need to make an awesome impact.

1st step.

1.buy a mesa boogie dual or even rectifier with a 4x12 cab and than for other guitarist buy a peavery 6150+ with a 4x12 cab. or a HiWatt, or Marshall JCM 800, etc.. or something nice and tubey

2. for bassist go get a 8x10 ampeq with a SVTPro4 head. u need that wattage to cut thru 2 guitards with the above set-up

3. drums. bring a trigger and a dedicated roadie to set it up. faster that way.

4. singer bring own mic unless u wanna taste the previous band saliva.

well u can use the distortion/od from those amps those are good enuff, u might wanna add modulation and what not, u can also bring your own sound engineer and brief him what type of sound u wanna achieve. depending on venue u may or may not need to mic the amps or di the bass.

lordie, you're probably being sarcastic here as i get by most gigs with 15w tube combos.

 

[justheretolook]

Just like what Boogified mentioned, it's usually the shitty amps... the amps are oftentimes peavey, crate, roland jazz chorus QUOTE]

WHAT?! the roland jazz chorus is a great amp, better than crate and peavey. it does not deserve to be rated in the family of crates and peaveys. this is of course my opinion

 

[Sebaztian]

Talking about gigs, some organizers don't even provide you a monitor to let you listen to your playing.. That would be suck big time I feel...

 

[edgie]

Just like what Boogified mentioned, it's usually the shitty amps... the amps are oftentimes peavey, crate, roland jazz chorus QUOTE]

WHAT?! the roland jazz chorus is a great amp, better than crate and peavey. it does not deserve to be rated in the family of crates and peaveys. this is of course my opinion

Yes, I agree with you to a certain degree but you have to spend some time with them to have a decent tone specially on gain-y tones. If it's your first time to encounter one, you may find it very difficult to get a good balance between clean and dirty tones.

To the OP, should you encounter this amp, one thing that works for it though is to keep the bass low, maybe just on 2(I"m using a strat so you may have to go on 0 on a Les Paul), and keep the mids and treble at around 5 to make it sound flat. Then just use your pedal's EQ and gain to add flavor to it.

Problem is, the ones they usually provide has some crackling pots or just one channel working. Not that you'll need two but it can be a disaster if you were plugged into a faulty channel unknowingly and you're troubleshooting your whole rig with just 5mins to balance your sound with the whole band, stuff like that.

 

[LEMONed_Z]

I've heard ppl live getting good tone and sound balance using those "shitty" crates, peavy etc mentioned. I guess it's all about tweaking and balancing.

For those using multifx, can consider using the fx loop if available on the amp.

 

[khaos11]

take a chill pill

walau LORDIE, chill dude, this guy's first time!!! ROTFL... that one another level already leh. I guess for small gigs, it'll be lucky if you can even get a decent amp.

imho, play tightly and HAVE FUN... thats the most important.

leceh sia, wanna bring down all that, cabs and heads. i think i'll need like a few people to help carry, by the time you reach the place, you'll be drenched in your own sweat.

in any case, do remember that with different amps, your pedal setup will definitely sound a lil different, some amps react differently to your setup or ur liking. Make full use of your soundchecks (if you have any) to tweak it right. you can probably practice this in the studios first

anw talking bout pedals, LORDIE i loike your WANT WANT pedal, *hint hint... hahaha, wanna slowly integrate an OD or Dist into my current setup.