Gibson LP Standard Qs

The gibby will only satisfy the rhythm aspect of metal genres. When it comes to the more technical leads however, you'll find that you can't divebomb or even whammy and let's face it - the les paul is not the most shred-friendly axe out there. Even ZW's les paul is made with a thin maple neck to aid with shred and allow his sound to cut through the mix. A normal les paul is a little too dark to cut through a heavy genre mix well.

For the genres you have listed, I would recommend a floyd rose equipped guitar preferabbly with 24 frets.

Rammstein uses ernieball musicman
Opeth uses PRS custom 24
Herman Li of Dragonforce uses an ibanez sabre series

Or how about a revered '80s axe - the Jackson soloist? It can do blues well too. Listen to Gary Moore - The Loner

Btw, as gain goes up, the tonal differences between different guitars diminishes.
Also, contrary to popular belief, a huge flabby bass from most 24.625" scale lengths does not give a good chugga-chug sound. It will only sound mud. On the other hand, a tight sounding bass such as from a 25.5" scale does it really well.

The les paul supreme is a semi-hollow guitar and as such is tonally different from other les pauls.
 
Hey almondx, thanx for the input! Im not really a shred kinda soloist, i do, do "fast" licks but not really into shredding!

As for a floyd rose guitar, i already own a Jackson Replica by Samick which i heavily modified and i can bet sounds hotter den an original Jack would, of course not forgetting the pups, amp and efx settings ive got on it!!


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That's wat it was last time.

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That's wat it is now! swapped the pups, changed the floyed, pots and wiring! and as for fixed bridge, there's my Iceman
 
you can get some great deals on ishibashi's used webshop...alot of great deals there...got something wrong with copies meh...i so hurt now...i poor la...cannot afford gibby..
 
Even ZW's les paul is made with a thin maple neck to aid with shred and allow his sound to cut through the mix.
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just came back from Ozzy show today. ZW uses Gibson custom flying V and floating bridge a lot like Steve. He only plays his Rebel LP for two songs and no bulleye LP at all in Ozzy session.
 
hey, i just ended my search for a gibson lp.

initially i had the standard in mind, and maybe the classic antique series.

the new standards, classics and supremes are very much lighter than their predecessors because gibson has started hollowing out the body to reduce weight.

ive tried the custom, standard, and supreme and i went with the silverburst custom. The standard and supreme are very much lighter than the custom - i guess weight is a personal preference here. If you want a lighter guitar, then perhaps the standard is the way to go, but some argue that the tone has been "altered". I a/b ed them but personally its hard to attribute the tonal difference to the chambering alone because different pickups are used.

also note that the classic comes in the slim taper neck profile, the standards come in slim and thicker profiles and the custom only comes in the thicker one.

you can get a new standard for around 2k usd excluding shipping. saul at ccitymusic is a fantastic dealer and has many recommendations from the les paul forum. I went down to his store in san diego and his service is top notch. Its a little tough not trying the guitar you want to buy, but you could possibly try them out first before placing an order.

good luck in your search!
 
just came back from Ozzy show today. ZW uses Gibson custom flying V and floating bridge a lot like Steve. He only plays his Rebel LP for two songs and no bulleye LP at all in Ozzy session.
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My purpose was to point out what ZW would prefer on his own signature model to cater to the type of music he plays as compared to any off the rack les pauls. A flying V with a floating bridge is a different animal altogether and cannot be compared.
 
almondx, firstly ZW's LP has a thick neck, and im not talking about the epi version.
it is a custom afterall, and is based on a late 70s/early 80s custom with maple neck.

also current 2007 model LP Standards are chambered, like the supreme.
pre-2007 models had 9 weight relieved holes.
both pre-2007 and current 2007 LP standards will sound very different.

and about having a floyd rose.
well, no one said you cant play metal without one.

early slayer used LPs, trivium used LPs before too.
heck, even hetfield is using LPs.

it all depends if you really need a floyd or not.
 
Gibson Standard is not Chambered body..solid wood..

Class 5 in Customshop is Chambered body..like Supreme..
I think they choose light weight wood..not chambered..
 
And I have Gibson ZW..bull`s eye..
Neck is not thin..but not too fat..
I tried 68 Authentic Custom..that one is very fat..

Epi is thin...very thin...
Sound...very different..

And when U buy Epi ZW, have to check serial number..
The serial number have to start by U*******!!!
Epi Sig models is made in Korea...only..
Nowadays Korean company make only Epi Custom and Sig.

The other serial is not REAL Korea one..
Korea company use serial number...U, I, S..
the other serial is china one.
 
zakk, like i said.
2007 LP standards are chambered.
which part of 2007 didnt you read?

btw, LP standards havent been solid wood since the 80s.
this is what pre-2007 LP standards look like with the 9 weight relieved holes.

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this is what the current 2007 LP standards look like.
this is of a BFG tho, but its still the same chambering.
yes, its a xray.

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Everdying,

When I said the ZW sig has a thin neck I'm referring to it in relation to other les pauls. Our definition of thick then varies clearly. A '59 carve is tiny compared to that of typical classical guitars.

The Les Paul Supreme may or may not be chambered the same way as the newer les paul standards due to the fact that there are no rear cavity covers and all the electronics are inserted through the jack plate hole. If you want to talk about chambering you're missing out on the Cloud 9 series and the epiphone ultra as well. And if you want to be really anal about it, the maple cap at the back and the ebony fretboard will add to a difference in tone for the supreme compared to the standards.

Whoever said about not being able to play metal with a fixed bridge? I merely stated that you will be having problems with solos that require hard whammy usage.
 
Ya, I saw U said 2007 Gibson STD is chambered...
I never heard about that..I searched about Gibson, but couldn`t find..

Is the picture really STD? not Classic??
 
zakk, there have been a few users who've complained about the QC of the 2007 standards.
all due to gibson not cleaning the chambered body properly, so little slivers of wood still remain inside, and when you shake the guitar it can be felt.
and of cos since the maple cap is already on, there really is no other way to remove those small pieces of wood apart from drilling a hole somewhere.

so some have enlarged the channel between neck and bridge pickup.
some have enlarged the end pin socket.
all just to get those small pieces of wood out.
 
really?? so serious..
My STD is 2006..

Next time I have to check 2007 STD..
If that`s true, I never bring 2007 STD..
 
I read the forum...
but in the forum the guy`s Les Paul is classic..not STD..
Classic is chambered..from start of classic..
I think it`s about 1992...
 
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